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Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.0
Various sources | Wednesday, July 3, 2013 | Kristinn

Posted on 07/03/2013 5:56:34 AM PDT by kristinn

The Egyptian army has set a deadline of 4 p.m. Cairo time for the Muslim Brotherhood government of President Morsi to compromise with the people of Egypt (by stepping down.) Morsi refuses. 18 people were killed and 200 were wounded in clashes at Cairo University last night.

A Washington Post report from Cairo on dueling statements from Morsi and the army:

Waving his hands and shaking his fists in a 45-minute speech on national television late Tuesday, Morsi swore that he was committed to the democratic process that brought him to power and said that any attempts to subvert the constitution were “unacceptable.”

The army, in turn, posted a message to its Facebook page saying: “We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool.”

In his speech, Morsi acknowledged that he had made mistakes during his year in office as Egypt’s first democratically elected president. But he appealed to Egyptians to give him more time to deal with the country’s problems.

Link to originial FR thread from Friday with many amazing photos.


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To: thouworm; tcrlaf; melancholy; maggief; MestaMachine; caww; All

Here’s the latest I heard.

- Clashes continue between the army and MB

- Southern Egypt vendetta country) erupted with clashes between the MB and the rebels.

IMO, the MB is betting on the wrong horse, again! Violence! They are cutting their own throat and they’ll be exterminated.


681 posted on 07/03/2013 3:13:34 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
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To: melancholy
The coverage in FOX is totally ignorant.

I will second that. To add insult to injury, Fox played a Cavuto segment that was taped yesterday. So no Egypt update or analysis at all. This is a news channel? I think not. It is commercials occasionally interrupted by talking heads.

682 posted on 07/03/2013 3:16:14 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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To: melancholy

Egypt: At Least 4 Killed During Clashes In Matrouh
July 3, 2013 | 2103 GMT
At least four people were killed and seven injured in clashes between the army and supports of deposed President Mohammed Morsi in Egypt’s Matrouh governorate on July 3, Al Arabiya reported. Earlier, Morsi called for his supporters to respect Egypt’s newly invalidated constitution and not respond to the coup that deposed him. Though the Brotherhood is unlikely to abandon the path of democratic politics, Morsi’s ouster will lead elements from more ultraconservative Salafist groups to abandon mainstream politics in favor of armed conflict.


683 posted on 07/03/2013 3:16:14 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: thouworm; maggief; onyx; hoosiermama

This is very interesting, what are they up too?

Egypt: Salafist Party Supports Military Plan
July 3, 2013 | 2001 GMT
Egypt’s Salafist al-Nour Party announced its support for the military’s “roadmap” for the country’s political future and transition to new presidential elections, Al Arabiya reported July 3. Former Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi’s popularity had fallen dramatically since he took office a year ago, both among the secular opposition who saw him as the lesser of two evils in the June 2012 elections that brought him to power, and among hard-line Islamist groups like the influential al-Nour party


684 posted on 07/03/2013 3:20:26 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: PapaBear3625

LOL!

How did you know that IS my opinion?

I hope it goes Machiavelli’s way.


685 posted on 07/03/2013 3:21:48 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
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To: melancholy

The People are still there it’s been what 5 or 6 hrs or more?
Swells the chest and brings a tear!


686 posted on 07/03/2013 3:25:19 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: crosslink

They are trying to save their own lives.

Nobody in his right mind will ever let them in after what’s happening now.

The MB is taking the route of the diplomacy of violence, something they can’t do without.


687 posted on 07/03/2013 3:26:04 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
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To: kristinn

I am late to the party, but, did Rage Boy get a shave and a haircut? Happy 4th, Kristinn.

688 posted on 07/03/2013 3:26:23 PM PDT by rabidralph (Gray State Movie)
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To: Conserev1

It seems it’s the real breath of freedom in over sixty years.


689 posted on 07/03/2013 3:27:36 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
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To: maggief
THE CAMEL'S NOSE IS OFFICIALLY IN THE TENT!!! I bet you can't guess what this is •إذا كان دخلك الشهري الإجمالي أقل من 150 دولار و 100 دولار أو أقل في الأصول السائلة )نقود في اليد، الحسابات الجارية أو حسابات التوفير، شهادات التوفير(، أو •إذا كان مجموع دخلك الإجمالي وأصولك السائلة أقل من مجموع إيجارك الشهري أو قسط القرض العقاري زائد فاتورة التدفئة والمنافع العامة، أو •إذا كنت معدوم* الدخل أو أجير موسمي متنقل أو عامل مزارع موسمي ولديك 100 دولار أو أقل في الأصول السائلة. *المعدوم هو أن يكون دخلك قد توقف قبل تاريخ تقديم الطلب، أو أن دخلك قد بدأ ولكنك تتوقع أن لا تقبض أكثر من 25 دولار في غضون ال 10 أيام القادمة. إذا كان أهل بيتك مؤهلاً لمعالجة الطلب في غضون سبعة أيام، فيجب عليك: •أن تشترك في مقابلة، و •أن تقدّم إثباتاً بهويتك الشخصية، و •استكمال عملية الطلب بكامله. لمواصلة تلقي مخصصات الإعانة الغذائية، سيُطلب منك أن تقدم إثباتاً لمعلومات أخرى )مثل الدخل، مكان الإقامة، ...إلخ(. إذا قمت بإعطاء الإثبات عند التقديم، فيمكن أن تُعطى فترة أطول من مخصصات الإعانة الغذائية. المقابلات المعنية ببرنامج الإعانة الغذائية )Food Assistance Program: FAP( يجوز التنازل عن إجراء مقابلة وجهاً لوجه وإجراء مقابلة هاتفية في الحالات التي يشكل ذلك على أهل بيتك مشقة. وتتضمن المشقات على سبيل المثال ولا تقتصر على التالي: •المرض. •صعوبات في النقل. •دوام ساعات العمل الذي يمنع من الاشتراك في مقابلة مكتبية. إذا كنت تعاني من مشقة وتحتاج إلى إجراء DHS أخبر الأخصائي المسؤول عنك ف Well, it's part of the instructions for how to apply for food stamps in the great state of Michigan . Read on: I actually called the Michigan Dept. of Human Services to check this out and it is true. Have we gone completely nuts!! THE CAMEL'S NOSE IS OFFICIALLY IN THE TENT IN MICHIGAN !!! Muslim men are allowed to have as many as 4 wives. Many Muslims have immigrated into the U.S. and brought their 2-3-or 4 wives with them, but the U.S. does not allow multi marriages, so the man lists one wife as his, and signs the other 2 or 3 up as extended family on welfare and other free Government programs! Michigan has the highest population of Muslims in the United States . When President Obama took office the United States paid several millions of dollars to have a large number of Palestinians, (All Muslim), immigrated here from Palestine . Why? We don’t pay for other persons to immigrate here, and I’m sure that some of those Muslims moved into Michigan with the large current number of Muslims already established there. So now in Michigan when you call the Public Assistance office you are told to “Press 1 for English. Press 2 for Spanish, or Press 3 for Arabic”! CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF - Here is the number 1-888-678-8914 . Every time you add a new language to an American program it requires an additional number of persons fluent in that language to process those persons who refuse to learn English in order to live here at an additional cost to the taxpayer! Why are we even allowing persons to immigrate here who cannot provide for themselves, and putting them in our welfare system? Press 3 for Arabic. This is quite alarming!!! This seems to have happened clandestinely, for, as far as I know, no public announcement, or opportunity to vote on this was offered to the American people. They're just adopting an official stance, and very likely using tax-payer money for it, in various capacities, without public knowledge or approval. The following link takes you into the State of Michigan Public Assistance page, (as in Food Stamps etc). You won't have to scroll far before you see the assistance-letters options for ... (get this) ... English, Spanish, and ARABIC!!! When did the ARABIC option sneak into our culture? Will we soon have to listen to our governmental offices, stores, and other venues offer us the option of "pressing 3 for ARABIC?"
690 posted on 07/03/2013 3:33:07 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: All

23:30 That’s it from the live updates today. Some sporadic violence is being reported in Egyptian governorates, with four people confirmed dead, but in Cairo things are still peaceful. The mood in Tahrir Square and at Ittihadiya presidential palace is jubilant - although the campaigns against sexual harassment are warning on Twitter that sexual assaults are taking place in Tahrir.

23:25 More clashes being reported outside Cairo.

There is violence in Kafr El-Sheikh in the Nile Delta, which has led to 118 injured so far, Ahram Arabic reported two hours ago.

Clashes between opposition and Morsi supporters started at 7pm. Forty-three Morsi supporters taking part in the clashes were arrested for illegal possession of weapons. Despite the clashes, cheering crowds flooded the streets of Kafr El-Sheikh immediately after El-Sisi’s statement.

23:20 The clashes in Marsa Matrouh seem to have worsened. The city, on the western part of Egypt’s Mediterranean coast, is known to be an Islamist stronghold. Health ministry officials confirmed that 4 people have died in the violence and 13 are injured. According to an Ahram correspondent based in the city, Morsi supporters attacked the governorate headquarters after El-Sisi’s statement, leading to clashes.

23:10 Ahram Online’s Bassem Abou El-Abbas is at the Rabaa Al-Adawiya pro-Morsi sit-in in Cairo. He says the mood is angry but not violent; the area is surrounded by troops who are not allowing anyone to enter or leave the sit-in. Eyewitnesses told El-Abbas that after the military’s announcement, three cars’ windows were smashed, but that seems to be the extent of the violence. He says that the army which is surrounding the protest is not allowing anyone to enter or leave the sit-in.


691 posted on 07/03/2013 3:43:27 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: melancholy; maggief; onyx; hoosiermama

I agree self preservation .

This is interesting . The games begin.

Egypt: Suspected Hamas Members Arrested In Terror Plot
July 3, 2013 | 2228 GMT
Egyptian security forces on July 3 arrested four people in an apartment at a Cairo suburb under suspicion of planning a terror attack, Al-Ahram and Ynet reported. Authorities reportedly found explosives in the apartment, along with military and police uniforms. An unnamed security source said the four are members of Palestinian Islamic political party Hamas.


692 posted on 07/03/2013 3:46:55 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink

Though the Brotherhood is unlikely to abandon the path of democratic politics, Morsi’s ouster will lead elements from more ultraconservative Salafist groups to abandon mainstream politics in favor of armed conflict.


The MB may be seriously defanged. And any Salafists that choose armed conflict deserve to get killed.


693 posted on 07/03/2013 3:51:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: melancholy

It’s a good day, isn’t it, Melancholy?

I bet that many citizens in other Mozlem countries would like to go the same route.


694 posted on 07/03/2013 3:52:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: crosslink

These must be the Hamas snipers’ apartment. They were arrested a couple of days ago on murder charges for killing 8 demonstrators in Mokattam where the MB “guidance” HQ is located.

No wonder armor was deployed on the Gaza border.


695 posted on 07/03/2013 3:54:16 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
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To: little jeremiah

Let us hope you’re right.

It’s about time!


696 posted on 07/03/2013 3:55:27 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
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To: melancholy; maggief; onyx; hoosiermama

From the blaze better here I will post what I can.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/03/heres-what-we-know-about-egypts-new-interim-president/

Mansour, chairman of the Supreme Constitutional Court of Egypt only since July 1, has been named the new leader of Egypt.

(Credit: Twitter via HuffPo)

The 68-year-old judge was called to the position of acting President of Egypt by the military, according to Business Insider, following the takeover of the government and removal of previous President Mohammed Morsi.

Mansour will act as president until a new constitution is drawn up and new elections are held, according to CNN.

Here’s are five other things we’re hearing about Mansour:

1. Here’s his photo, via Al Arabiya Channel’s Twitter account:

(Credit: Twitter via Buzzfeed)

2. Mansour was appointed to the head of the constitutional court on June 11 by former President Morsi, according to the African Business Journal.

3. He’ll be sworn in on Thursday, July 4:

(Credit: Twitter via Muckrack.com)

4. There’s a grand effort afoot to update Mansour’s Wikipedia page, which was created only hours ago:

(Credit: Twitter via Muckrack.com)

(Credit: Twitter via Muckrack.com)

5. He’s a Cairo University Law School grad and began as a judge on the Supreme Constitutional Court in 1992, according to his updated Wikipedia page:

(Credit: Wikipedia)

More from The Independent:

Born in 1945, Mansour was appointed to the court in 1992, making him one of its longest-serving judges. The Muslim Brotherhood and the court repeatedly clashed during Mohamed Morsi’s clumsy attempts to force through constitutional change, with the Islamist party seeing it as an enemy and launching sometimes violent protests against its members.

Despite his control over Egypt’s political institutions Morsi was never able to control the judiciary, many of whom were Mubarak-era appointees. In December last year security guards had to step in after the car of Maher al-Beheiry, Mansour’s predecessor, was attacked by Brotherhood supporters fearful the court would dissolve the Islamist-dominated Constituent Assembly tasked with drafting the amended constitution.

This is a breaking news story.


697 posted on 07/03/2013 3:58:57 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: melancholy

It is definitely high time.

Hub has a co-worker with an Iranian name who moved here no doubt when the Shah got dethroned (the man would have been a child then). I am thinking of Iranians - if only a sizeable portion of the Iranian military were on their side.


698 posted on 07/03/2013 3:58:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Bobalu

Thank you! I will save it.


699 posted on 07/03/2013 3:59:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

35 years of garbage is a long time for an army to be transformed.


700 posted on 07/03/2013 4:00:53 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
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