Posted on 07/02/2013 10:40:03 AM PDT by William Tell 2
And is this assuming Southern California temps, or up north here, where all winter you will have to run a kilowatt-sucking electric heater in the car?
With a combustion engine you are using the waste heat of combustion to warm the cabin, with no extra energy draw. Not sure how an electric can even come close to that.
Same with any energy source, there will be other consequences for getting and using such power.
Time for fun with math! We will assume a $3.75 gallon of gas and a $24,167 gas powered Ford Focus. We will also assume 3 gallons of gas used per day for the gas powered car (for a gas powered Ford Focus, that would be around 100 miles per day.)
Now:
3 x $3.75 = $11.25 per day for the gas powered Focus
3 x $1.14 = $3.42 per day for the electric Focus
After 365 days, we will have spent $4,106.25 on gas for the gas Focus and $1,248.30 for the electric Focus. A savings of $2,857.95.
With an initial cost difference of $14,844, it will take 5+ years of driving to break even on the electric car.
Sounds like a long time to see the payoff, honestly.
And, in my F150, I get about 600 miles on a tank from the storage system at highway speeds. and that’s with 5 people and luggage for each. It costs about $100 for that tank refill. If gas ever returns to non speculative pricing, it’ll be half that.
That assumes both the resources to pay cash and also no cost to maintain. Throw in 6% interest rate and monthly payments along with the electrical issues and it is extremely skewed.
The price of the electricity will only be 12¢/kWH, the taxes will bring it up to 12¢ per mile driven...
and require the EV to have it own meter!
Well duh, they need a dedicated meter that interrogates the car's odometer every single time you charge it to calculate the mileage taxes!
$1.14 a gallon: what the price of gas WOULD be if Obama got out of the way of our current national oil boom.
Not counting the tax-evasion bill the state will send you for driving on roads that gasoline taxes fund.
Does this take into account the heavy pricing subsidies on e-cars and the heavy taxes/regulation on gasoline?
Probably not.
More agitprop. This will continue until it is stopped dead...
No. No vehicles that are battery powered for sale - none come with trailer hitches. The companies tell people not to get one if they want to haul trailers and such.
...even longer than that, given your favorable assumptions: 100 miles a day is 36,500 per year, which is around double the average. Never mind that the electric car can’t reach 100 miles per day!
So now your break-even point is more like 10-15 years away (without considering the tax breaks that will inevitably figure into it). And by then your EV car is either toast or needs another battery.
1) Multiple hundred miles of range per charge.
2) VERY rapid recharge rate.
Those two items, along with some passenger comfort issues, are the biggest problems facing the electric car.
that also assumes the price of gas and the price of electricity stay the same.
also do not forget you often pay other charges in your utility bill (penalties, maintenance fees, etc) per kwh that adjust what you really pay for your electricity.
By the end of five years, both should be ready for new batteries (I live in ND, five years is good, with our winters).
That might skew the numbers again...
Feds and numbers has never worked out.
Fair enough.
Will they also provide:
eRepairs
eInitial-Cost
eTime-to-Recharge
eFire-Hazard
When Obama finishes destroying the coal fired electrical plants the price will soar.
A 2013 Chevy Spark base model cost $13,000 and gets 38mpg on regular unleaded.
A 2013 Chevy Volt cost $40,000 and gets 40 mpg on premium unleaded
I drive 380 miles a week, all highway miles. Using $3.75/gal regular gas and $3.95/gal premium gas even with the modest increase in economy, I could save $94/year. Therefore it would only take me 287 years to save the increased cost of the Volt...
Sign me up!
LOL!
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