Day 17 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread

The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 2, 2013 | Sundance

[Uncle Chip]

Today, July 2nd, is DAY #17 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Today Detective Chris Serino will be back on the stand. [Yesterday ended] on the stand with Chris Serino, who was the lead investigator for the Sanford Police Department on the Trayyvon Martin shooting.

Defense counsel Mark O’Mara led cross-examination with his usual consummate skill, obtaining responses from this witness–remember, the State’s witness–that all but completely guts the State’s charge in this case.

Among the key revelations so far: Zimmerman was always completely cooperative, open, and straightforward with all the police investigators over many weeks of multiple interviews, both in person at the police station and phone. The sense given is that Zimmerman demonstrated endless patience. (continue reading summary)

[Toespi]

I don’t know. If GZ made the statement e wasn’t familiar with SYG in the Hannity interview, yet took a class. I think that could be damaging.

[ctdonath2]

“theory that he is a cop wannabe”

Weren’t most cops “cop wannabes” before they became cops?

[moehoward]

"I’m sticking to the theory that the razor sharp (wet) grass cuttings rain caused all GZ’s injuries..."

And the prosecutions expert in that arena...

[hoosiermama]

Thought it was in the male box ?

[Las Vegas Ron]

I (foolishly) jumped in the middle of a one hit bar fight and stopped the guy from hitting again-the one guy was out on his feet-I could see the hit guys eyes glaze over and roll back into his head

Sounds like you did the right thing to me.

Of course, you didn't mention what happened to you but kudos for stepping up. Sometimes even if you get hurt, if you were doing it for the right reasons, it's worth it.

[Solson]

I’ve taken a concealed carry course. That doesn’t mean I can draw and shoot accurately at a perp closing in on me from 21’ away. It’s a stretch to say the least. Moreover, now we get into the capacity to learn and remember. “Was George always a good student?” “Did George participate in class?” “Did George ever bring you an apple?”

[gov_bean_ counter]

Knowing that SYG exists and knowing the intricacies of the law are two different things.

[Cyber Liberty]

So the goal is to appease a certain segment of our culture with a trial and at the same time publicize and show how very clearly innocent Zimmerman is, even to the simple minded, all to avoid an excuse for riots and looting.”

If that's the plan, it's doomed to failure. We're talking about the least sophisticated segment of a culture of fools.

[moehoward]

Marcia Clack on CNN..... YIKES!

[UCANSEE2]

The Judge already made it clear she was going to allow it, no matter what O'Mara said. Her challenge to O'Mara is to waste time looking up case law to prove her wrong.

IF the primary function of this case is WHO is the aggressor , and if The defendant's 'grades' are being looked at, then isn't it just to also consider the 'grades' of the other (almost completely proven) aggressor ?

[Fawn]

Please go to Freepmaile with this.

I tried that before and the person brought it back into this forum tellihng me never to freepmail her again. Some people don't like to fight their own battles...they needs buddies to help them. But, I agree with you.

[Uncle Chip]

Male thing is at the clubhouse.

[Toespi]

Well, if the information is correct that TM was participating in fighting sports, I think it should come in.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

I was riding down a bridge on my bike and the front wheel came out of the fork. The bike stopped a lot faster than I did.

[snarkytart]

He took a SYG class? Lol

I mean just because he went to a criminal justice class at a local community college doesn’t mean they even talked about SYG laws. An introductory class probably is just giving the outline of the law and constitution. Jeesh what a desperate grab.

[jjsheridan5]

I know that defense can’t bring up Martin’s past (barring a misstep by the prosecution), but can O’Mara say something like this in his closing arguments:

“It is the defense’s contention that Trayvon Martin initiated the confrontation. The prosecution could have devastated our case had they shown that such a scenario was impossible, if Mr. Martin was not the type of person to do this. But they never brought in even the slightest bit of evidence showing that this would be out of character. Why not? What is the prosecution trying to hide?”

[Uncle Chip]

or atleast it was when Martin was there according to Diamond Eugene

[EnquiringMind]

The entire premise is ridiculous.....that GZ, the cop “wannabe”, murdered Trayvon just because he is a cop “wannabe”??? And so what if he actually knew and understood the Stand Your Ground law? I am baffled.......

[UCANSEE2]

Ok, I didnt’ know if there was a commonly known thing that I was missing...

The 'fired' was conjecture on my part. If you heard her state why she didn't go back to her old job, then you didn't miss a thing.

[Toespi]

This is maybe the first time in testimony the judge has asked for case law, which I think proves she knows she is on shaky ground.