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To: grania; ansel12
I just don't know how this ends well. I don't trust "conservatives" at all, after Rubio and Ryan are showing that they don't really care about stopping the invasion. And Sara Palin? I want to believe, but she has yet to renounce her support of McCain.

First of all, as the Bible states, you judge a tree by it's fruit.

By that definition, neither Rubio or Ryan are "conservative".

They may have been conservatives at one time, judging by their actions, but no matter what they call themselves, or anyone else for that matter, they are not conservatives.

So that talking point of yours is moot.

Secondly, this Amnesty issue is the issue that defines McCain, and Governor Palin has come out squarely against it.

Short of calling McCain names, I'm not sure what you are looking for in terms of renouncing.

Finally, you bring up Rand Paul who has is own Amnesty Proposal of granting 2 million Illegal Aliens Amnesty each and every year based on the "certification" of a Pro-Amnesty Congress that the border is secure.

Once again, you judge a tree by it's fruit.
104 posted on 07/01/2013 7:59:33 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

I don’t like Rand Paul on amnesty either, though his rhetoric has improved. It’s just that I’m not in a mood to vote for ‘pubs if the invasion of the US isn’t stopped. So, I’ll go with the new kids on the block for fresh thinking, the ones who really don’t care about what McCain and Lindsey etc think of them.


120 posted on 07/01/2013 10:13:09 PM PDT by grania
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