Posted on 06/29/2013 7:12:27 PM PDT by markomalley
Ryan is not a constitutional conservative. He’s a card-carrying member of the cheap labor party. I hope he’s primaried.
The illegals came across the border under their own power. They can go back the same way, and will if employment opportunities dry up.
Strong employer penalties for hiring illegals (fines and incarceration) would eliminate opportunities for illegals to work. This also would increase employment opportunities for welfare queens, chronic unemployed and others sucking on the government teat.
The illegals came across the border under their own power. They can go back the same way, and will if employment opportunities dry up.
Strong employer penalties for hiring illegals (fines and incarceration) would eliminate opportunities for illegals to work. This also would increase employment opportunities for welfare queens, chronic unemployed and others sucking on the government teat.
They push this through, I am done with them. Let the party implode if they succeed granting legal status to a person who is here by breaking the law and overstaying a visa. You or I would not be allowed to remain in another country under those circumstances. A new resistance will form from the grassroots. They are Not going to change political directions, I don’t see it. Like Rubio, they are beholding to the rich club guys who pour money into the party for returns of getting what they want. Wealthier mass more riches; the working family will be like re-living the Carter days/struggling for work, tho only worse. Imo.
What taxes will they be paying Ryan?? The EITC?
What good does it do to have them paying payroll/entitlement taxes if they get the money back in EITC and then later get the entitlements too?
Immediate probational legalization wouldn't be bad if it came with the condition that they REALLY pay (income) taxes and don't get ANY handouts. If it required them to be part of the 53%. Many wouldn't come forward in that case, which is why the Senate bill has all those loopholes. We could use some more taxpayers.
Despite that “people for a conservative direction” disinformation ad that’s been circulating on the TV and radio, I don’t think any informed and principled conservatives were fooled by the Gang of Eight.
So, let me get this right...the guys that died at the Alamo fighting for their country, should have just raised the white flag and surrendered to Santa Ana because it would be just too difficult to defeat the nice guy Mexicans?
It’s just too difficult to deport all of the illegals? Oh my, well then, resign your government position and allow people with stiffer backs to enforce the laws of this country. How on earth did we end up with such Nancy boys running this country?
Rubio may as well start working on his real estate license.
Ryan too, for that matter.
If these guys are GOP, I’m not.
He isn't just a liar. He's also dumb to think we can't think or remember.
The fence can be built immediately, and he gave absolutely no reason why it couldn't be built. To the question of why can't we build the fence first, the illogic of his answer is astounding: Because in order to secure the border, you have to have a workable legal immigration system that people who are trying to come to this country to work have a way of coming here legally,”
If I follow that, "we can't build the fence first because immigrants need a legal way to come to this country." Smack yourself in the head, Paul, the fence HELPS them to come here legally by PREVENTING them from coming here ILLEGALLY! Ryan's argument is that they can't come here legally if a fence is in place!! The absurdity of it is mind-boggling.
I used to think it was Romney who made Romney/Ryan fail. Apparently, Ryan is a slick-meister as well. Should have known it, those Miami Oxford grads are all beer and privilege.
On that basis alone, the idea that the Senate bill is "comprehensive" immigration reform" is ludicrous.
Why are there so many morons in the Senate???
They refuse to believe the old paradigm doesn’t apply.
Pass controversial bills in the off-years, wait for the people to forget, and then demonize the opposition during the election cycle.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Also do some real combing out. Check out immigration papers at every traffic stop, every law enforcement encounter, every welfare/food stamp office, and every time somebody comes to a hospital seeking free care. Then deport those who can’t prove they’re legally here. That’s pretty much what happens in foreign countries to Americans. Just go to England, get involved in a traffic stop, not be able to show your passport and US driver’s license and see what happens.
The Gang of Eight did accomplish one thing. They guaranteed there will not be a Republican president in a long long time. If ever.
I know I will not be voting for any Republican above the county level again. Hell, if they are going to act like Democrats, I may as well vote for the real thing.
“when he said securing the border first “
‘Securing the border’ is pointless anyway.
It just means that the ones who do manage to get across the border are home free.
If you are afraid to deport them then all that they have to do is keep trying until they finally get across.
Not one of the political hacks whose duty it is to enforce the law obeys their oath of office.
Not one of them will deport the foreign nationals who have flooded into our country.
We don’t have a government of laws. We have rulers who do nothing more than what they feel like doing, the law be damned.
Fool us once, shame on you.
Fool us twice, double shame on you.
Fool us thrice, now cut that out before we really do something and by the way... triple shame on you.
Yep, forget the wacko-birds chirping, the GOP-e are hunting snipe!
The only way to reach knotheads like Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio is to take off the gloves and call them the liars they are, and remind them that the foot soldiers in the Republican base are using words every bit as strong.
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