I have renewed hope with this and a couple other threads in the last couple days. I see many of the names I have argued with since the primaries coming around to our way of thinking and realizing that the lesser evil/win at any price crap is just that.
To be sure, there are some hardcore statist types determined to mock us, but, and I address this to anyone still reading this thread, they have nothing ‘but’ mockery.
The facts of history are what they are. One does not go right by moving left. Someone DID vote for unprincipled GOP politicians and got them elected. Those unprincipled GOP politicians DID stand idly by while DOMA was tanked. They DID vote with the dems on amnesty. They DID NOTHING to stop a gay takeover in the military.
And they HAVE DONE NOTHING to defund Obama’s destruction of America. Not one damn thing. If they did, then show it.
Now on a near 500 post thread with a wide cross section of the Freeper body politic participating, I want the lesser evil defenders to show us all exactly WHY we should go with that broken philosophy when the past month has CLEARLY and UNAMBIGUOUSLY shown the very real results of what comes from it.
We have here the seed of the actual ‘Rebellion” that Jim talks about actually sprouting. —For real.— We have people waking up to their past mistakes and saying “No More!”
And yet, and like clockwork, we have people demanding we get our collective tails back in the closet and back to the GOP plantation.
If all the new converts really and genuinely have had a come to Jesus moment over this, and I pray to God they have, I want people to stand up for what they believe in. I want them to stand up and reject our past mistakes and tell these GOP suckups to go straight to hell. If we collectively can’t do that, something that basic and simple to the issue, then I really do not see the point in even discussing the matter at all. We should all just drop politics entirely and do what we are told.
< We have here the seed of the actual ‘Rebellion” that Jim talks about actually sprouting. —For real.—We have people waking up to their past mistakes and saying “No More!” >
Someone could just as easily say that if all the conservatives who didn’t vote for Mittens HAD voted for him, we wouldn’t be in this Tyrannical Takeover position to begin with. I have no interest in coming back to this thread to this potential flame war, so I’ll just say this:
It does not matter how we got here. Everyone’s perception is different.
It does not matter what YOUR perception is about who was wrong about 2012.
It does not matter what MY perception is about who was wrong about 2012.
If anyone just doesnt feel normal unless they’re in a flame war, let me provide a glimpse of what it looks like to the rest of us. Just pick one of these two statements and run with it:
1. We wouldn’t BE here if YOU AND YOUR KIND had gotten a clue much sooner and changed from being a stubborn, ignorant, hard-core statist to joining the 3rd party mindset.
2. We wouldn’t BE here if YOU AND YOUR KIND had not abandoned the GOP to stupidly vote your conscience and pursue your lofty and unattainable dream of winning an election by voting 3rd party.
This continued debate is pointless and a colossal waste of time, and most likely the trolls will try to throw out the bait to sidetrack what they fear most: An invigorated, pissed off Tea Party.
If the GOPe do not immediately do a complete reversal of their behavior to save our Republic, ALL that matters is the future, and thus, IMO, we should ALL refrain from discussing the past, some of which i listed above. Just my 2¢ that i needed to say.
Somehow, i just cannot see our Founding Fathers sitting around wasting time and emotional energy with verbal haggling about how they ended up in their own bloody predicament.