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< We have here the seed of the actual ‘Rebellion” that Jim talks about actually sprouting. —For real.—We have people waking up to their past mistakes and saying “No More!” >

Someone could just as easily say that if all the conservatives who didn’t vote for Mittens HAD voted for him, we wouldn’t be in this Tyrannical Takeover position to begin with. I have no interest in coming back to this thread to this potential flame war, so I’ll just say this:

It does not matter how we got here. Everyone’s perception is different.
It does not matter what YOUR perception is about who was wrong about 2012.
It does not matter what MY perception is about who was wrong about 2012.

If anyone just doesnt feel normal unless they’re in a flame war, let me provide a glimpse of what it looks like to the rest of us. Just pick one of these two statements and run with it:

1. We wouldn’t BE here if YOU AND YOUR KIND had gotten a clue much sooner and changed from being a stubborn, ignorant, hard-core statist to joining the 3rd party mindset.

2. We wouldn’t BE here if YOU AND YOUR KIND had not abandoned the GOP to stupidly vote your conscience and pursue your lofty and unattainable dream of winning an election by voting 3rd party.

This continued debate is pointless and a colossal waste of time, and most likely the trolls will try to throw out the bait to sidetrack what they fear most: An invigorated, pissed off Tea Party.

If the GOPe do not immediately do a complete reversal of their behavior to save our Republic, ALL that matters is the future, and thus, IMO, we should ALL refrain from discussing the past, some of which i listed above. Just my 2¢ that i needed to say.

Somehow, i just cannot see our Founding Fathers sitting around wasting time and emotional energy with verbal haggling about how they ended up in their own bloody predicament.