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To: kristinn

It blows my mind the amount of people who just completely ignore the fact of self-defense. I just can’t wrap my mind around it...Smashed in nose, head smashed - - He should have just sat back and accepted it. I mean what kind of logic are they using here?


6 posted on 06/29/2013 9:31:17 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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For the mother, it’s the time honored tradition of “My boy is an angel, and he couldn’t have done what they say he did.”

For the others it’s a mixture of feeling bad someone was killed, they can’t understand why lethal force was justified, and overt racism.


8 posted on 06/29/2013 9:35:04 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Exactly. But it didn’t help Bernard Goetz, either.


11 posted on 06/29/2013 9:38:37 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda; kristinn
It blows my mind the amount of people who just completely ignore the fact of self-defense. I just can’t wrap my mind around it...Smashed in nose, head smashed - - He should have just sat back and accepted it. I mean what kind of logic are they using here?

Just posted this on another Zimmerman thread. I think it applies here, too:

My take is the media mob WANTS rioting and general craziness if Zimmerman is found not guilty. That boosts ratings and sells papers. So even though anyone paying attention knows the prosecution has been an absolute disaster, they tell the low-information viewer that, "Boy, that prosecution is doing an INCREDIBLY GREAT job! Zimmerman's going to be convicted for sure!" Thus, if Zimmerman is acquitted, the low-information viewer goes apoplectic: "This was a slam-dunk for the prosecution! The fix is in! Where's my baseball bat???"

The James Bond movie Tomorrow Never Dies has sort of become a primer for today's "journalism." Why wait around for things to happen when you can make them happen yourself?

13 posted on 06/29/2013 9:39:20 AM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I totally agree with you. The more I think about it, the more clear it becomes that anything and everything that happened before Martin started beating on Zimmerman is irrelevant to this case. Zimmerman was getting beaten to death and he had the right to protect himself with deadly force. Period!!!

Let’s assume that Zimmerman was being an ass and an over-bearing ‘know-it-all-in-your-face-cop-want-to-be neighborhood Watch guy.’ Let’s even assume Zimmerman talked down to Trayvon in offensive language....just for the sake of argument. Heck, we can even assume Zimmerman was a racist.....just throw it all in there because none of it matters.

What matters was that Trayvon Martin had no right to take Zimmermans life and therefore Zimmerman had every right to defend himself against the lethal attack.

The defenses problem in all of this is that it was Zimmermans actions that started the entire situation going. There is no doubt about this and it plays very well politically and emotionally and might be what sways the jury. Still, take away the race element, and what are you left with?....a guy defending his life against another guy who was hell bent on taking it from him. Case closed.


21 posted on 06/29/2013 9:48:33 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I keep hearing how he shouldn’t have shot him because getting his head bashed in wasn’t life threatening. So with this logic he could only shot at him to protect himself until he himself was dead?

When you are in that situation, I’m sure you are not sure if you are going to live or die.


36 posted on 06/29/2013 10:11:58 AM PDT by Guardian Sebastian (Def. of Liberal: The first person to give you the shirt off of some else's back.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Liberal “logic.” There is no greater sin in the leftist mind than self-reliance. Successfully defending yourself from a murderous assault is a prime example. Given how out of control Martin was and the path he seemed to be heading down in life, Zimmerman probably saved more lives than just his own that night.


38 posted on 06/29/2013 10:15:29 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
It blows my mind the amount of people who just completely ignore the fact of self-defense. I just can’t wrap my mind around it...Smashed in nose, head smashed - - He should have just sat back and accepted it. I mean what kind of logic are they using here?

It is the language of victimhood. In that culture, Trayvon was a victim and will always be an innocent child.

And in the culture of victimhood, someone must pay. In the world view of those in the victimhood culture, they are the victims of whitey and his culture. In their view, the whole of American culture is racist (being built on a foundation of racism) and that culture (America) must pay.

In this case, Zimmerman is the point man for White culture and he must pay.

While this is captured in Derrick Bell's Critical Race Theory (CRT), it is second nature to the entire culture of Black Victimhood.

This is one of the several reasons why Obama hates America.

56 posted on 06/29/2013 10:37:50 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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