Too late Sarah...
Posted on 06/28/2013 2:34:32 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
Just to preface her post, a good point by DrewM:
DrewM @DrewMTips
How many ppl saying "cut Marco slack. Don't write him off in 16" would FREAK out if he became pro-choice & helped Dems loosen abortion laws? 2:41 PM - 28 Jun 2013
We all have our “red line” issues, as Drew says. Offhand, I can’t think of a single person I know privately or on Twitter who supports (or is indifferent to) the Gang of Eight bill and who also traditionally has treated border security as a “red line.” Everyone wants better border security and everybody thinks it’s important for immigrants to follow the rule of law, but when push comes to shove, some people are okay with bending on this in the name of other political goals and others are not. If you believe the polls about background checks and gun control, we might very well win a few extra votes by caving on that too. Want to do that? We might also win some votes by declaring our support for abortion in the first trimester. Okay to do that? We all have our “red lines.”
Here’s Palin drawing a “red line” of her own for people angry about the big amnesty pander. Whole post is at the link, but this is the key bit:
Great job, GOP establishment. You’ve just abandoned the Reagan Democrats with this amnesty bill, and we needed them to “enlarge that tent” of which you so often speak. It’s depressing to consider that the House of Representatives is threatening to pass some version of this nonsensical bill in the coming weeks.
Once again, I’ll point out the obvious to you: it was the loss of working class voters in swing states that cost us the 2012 election, not the Hispanic vote. Legal immigrants respect the rule of law and can see how self-centered a politician must be to fill this amnesty bill with favors, earmarks, and crony capitalists’ pork, and call it good. You disrespect Hispanics with your assumption that they desire ignoring the rule of law.
Folks like me are barely hanging on to our enlistment papers in any political party – and it’s precisely because flip-flopping political actions like amnesty force us to ask how much more bull from both the elephants in the Republican Party and the jackasses in the Democrat Party we have to swallow before these political machines totally abandon the average commonsense hardworking American. Now we turn to watch the House. If they bless this new “bi-partisan” hyper-partisan devastating plan for amnesty, we’ll know that both private political parties have finally turned their backs on us. It will then be time to show our parties’ hierarchies what we think of being members of either one of these out-of-touch, arrogant, and dysfunctional political machines.
I don’t know how disrespected Hispanics feel by the immigration reform push; according to Pew, 90 percent think illegals should have a way to stay legally in the U.S. and 59 percent think they should be allowed to apply for legal status even before border improvements have been made. Her broader point, though, about the party’s crushing failure to engage effectively with the working- and middle-class is spot on. That’s what I was getting at in the McCain post: This amnesty charade is simply the GOP’s way of dressing a gaping economic wound that cuts across racial demographics by putting an identity-politics band-aid on it, as if legalizing more cheap labor to make things even harder on working-class Americans doesn’t make the problem worse. The real reason to despair and start thinking third-party isn’t the amnesty bill itself, it’s the fact that this is what the party feels compelled to resort to now in lieu of building a better economic agenda. If they can’t figure out how to talk to people who aren’t entrepreneurs about pocketbook issues, then why keep donating to them and organizing for them? They’ve flunked politics 101. We’re pumping a dry well here.
I made it my new tagline.....
The GOP no longer wants conservatives. They do not care if we leave because we cannot win without them. Neither can they, but they think they can compete with dems if they pander to the low info crowd.
Hey, that’s very good!
The locals here are just as anxious to learn English so meeting people here always turns into friendships that are mutually rewarding...
Several free online Spanish courses I practiced with before moving here to learn the most important verbs and now I learn something new every day...and I help the locals learn new English phrases everyday...as well.
Charades are useful too...when describing to a mechanic a squeaky belt, my hubby pointed to his belt and made squeaking noises...we all laughed, it worked...the mechanic charged us 2.00 USD to tighten the belt and topped off all the fluids...
I now look back to the days when I lived in Houston and chuckle on the illegals and their broken English but must admit...THEY WERE TRYING and now I appreciate their guts to do so, it can be intimidating when you are the “outsider” practicing a new tongue. Here the locals are kind and helpful, you start using it more and more and accept their corrections
It also helps to have a smartphone with an offline translator, I use Lonely Plants Offline translator, for 10.00 it has saved my ass...you can have a person speak into the phone and it will translate...I also practice my typed Spanish to see if it translates as I have hoped it to...I also have Rosetta Stone but it is slow and boring...
Too late Sarah...
I did...expat effective 2/16/2013 and love every minute of it!
You are a slave to the political and economic chaos, GOP lies, government spying, homosexual agenda, anti Christan bullsh:t and dwindling freedoms...
I am free of the mess you prefer to wallow in and complain about...good luck it isn’t going to get any better...for you.
CW2 would be the next and last step.
Indeed they have. It's been a slow, insidious process but they now have control of the educational establishment, the media, the executive branch of the government, one-half of the legislative branch, and many of the federal district and appellate courts (the Supreme Court hangs by a thread; one death or resignation by a conservative and you can kiss that one good-bye).
In short, they have won.
Caliban, glad you’re gone. Now, why not leave FR too?
It is too late this year, but we might look at taking a ‘look see’ vacation down there next spring. It is unfortunate that we can’t just load up our Airstream trailer and drive down. LOL
My wife is teasing me about how difficult it would be for us to move all of my toys down there. ;>)
Thank you very much for your input..... or I should say, “muchas gracias”.
Yo hablo espanol con amigos cuando puedo.
Es comico porque estoy un gringo grande tambien.
I am not hopeful of that. Mexico has been ruled by a cartel of rich families since Independence. Our rich families tend to be infused with puritanism, long after that has been drained of its religious content, as in the case of the Rockefeller family. Mexico has no David Rockefeller.
If the house were smart.... they would just do nothing about immigration. Pass a resolution asking the white house to enforce current laws. No vote on the senate bill. No conference to come up with different bill. Just drop it.
During a private gathering at the Capitol Hill Club last week, Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) referred to the bill as “a piece of s---,” according to reports.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1841674/posts
I understand some of that, but at this point, all I actually know is; “dos cervezas por favor”. ;>)
Learning Spanish should be fun. My wife already speaks german, so she will be able to scold me in 3 languages.
Very appealing. I have a good friend here who is Nicaraguan, she lived through the revolution as a child. She is deeply, deeply devout and impressively intelligent. I have told her I want to hear all about it (wanting a hint of what to possibly expect here). I’ll have to pester her about it some. How is the political climate? Stable enough?
My view is that one has to keep in mind the differences between North and South, between The city and the rest of the country, between Catholics and the anti-clericals, and Indios and Spaniards. History keeps raising its head.
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