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Does the South Belong in the Union?
Townhall ^ | 06/28/2013 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 06/28/2013 8:44:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Is the Second Reconstruction over?

The first ended with the withdrawal of Union troops from the Southern states as part of a deal that gave Rutherford B. Hayes the presidency after the disputed election of 1876.

The second began with the Voting Rights Act of 1965, a century after Appomattox. Under the VRA, Southern states seeking to make even minor changes in voting laws had to come to Washington to plead their case before the Justice Department and such lions of the law as Eric Holder.

Southern states were required to get this pre-clearance for any alterations in voting laws because of systematic violations of the 14th and 15th amendment constitutional rights of black Americans to equal access to polling places and voting booths.

The South had discriminated by using poll taxes, gerrymandering and literacy tests, among other tactics. Dixie was in the penalty box because it had earned a place there.

What the Supreme Court did Tuesday, in letting the South out of the box, is to declare that, as this is not 1965, you cannot use abuses that date to 1965, but have long since disappeared, to justify indefinite federal discrimination against the American South.

You cannot impose burdens on Southern states, five of which recorded higher voting percentages among their black populations in 2012 than among their white populations, based on practices of 50 years ago that were repudiated and abandoned in another era.

You cannot punish Southern leaders in 2013 for the sins of their grandfathers. As Chief Justice John Roberts noted, black turnout in 2012 was higher in Mississippi than in Massachusetts.

Does this mean the South is now free to discriminate again?

By no means. State action that discriminates against minority voters can still be brought before the Department of Justice.

Even the "pre-clearance" provision of the VRA remains. All the court has said is that if Congress wishes to impose a pre-clearance provision on a state or group of states, Congress must have more evidence to justify unequal treatment than what "Bull" Connor did in Birmingham back in 1965.

Congress could pass a bill today authorizing Justice Department intervention in any state where the registration of blacks, Hispanics or Asians fell below 60 percent of that electorate.

What Congress can no longer do is impose conditions on Southern states from which Northern states are exempt. Washington can no longer treat the states unequally -- for that, too, is a violation of the Constitution.

The Roberts court just took a giant stride to restoring the Union.

Yet the hysterical reaction to the decision reveals a great deal.

What do critics say they are afraid of?

While conceding that immense progress has been made with the huge turnout of black voters in the South and the re-election of a black president, they say they fear that without the pre-clearance provision this would never have happened. And now that the provision no longer applies to the South, the evil old ways will return.

On several counts this is disheartening.

For what the critics of the court decision are saying is that, no matter the progress made over half a century, they do not trust the South to deal fairly and decently with its black citizens, without a club over its head. They do not believe the South has changed in its heart from the days of segregation.

They think the South is lying in wait for a new opportunity to disfranchise its black voters. And they think black Southerners are unable to defend their own interests -- without Northern liberal help.

In this belief there are elements of paranoia, condescension and bigotry.

Many liberals not only do not trust the South, some detest it. And many seem to think it deserves to be treated differently than the more progressive precincts of the nation.

Consider Wednesday's offering by Washington Post columnist Harold Meyerson. The South, he writes, is the home of "so-called right-to-work laws" and hostility to the union shop, undergirded by "the virulent racism of the white Southern establishment," a place where a "right-wing antipathy toward workers' rights" is pandemic.

The South is the "the heartland of cheap-labor America. ... When it wants to slum, business still goes to the South." Then there are those "reactionary white Republican state governments."

Were a conservative to use the term "black" as a slur the way Meyerson spits out the word "white," he would be finished at the Post. Meyerson's summation:

"If the federal government wants to build a fence that keeps the United States safe from the danger of lower wages and poverty and their attendant ills -- and the all-round fruitcakery of the right-wing white South -- it should build that fence from Norfolk to Dallas. There is nothing wrong with a fence as long as you put it in the right place."

Harold looks forward to the day that a surging Latino population forces "epochal political change" on a detestable white South.


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To: ansel12
Utah is not what people think, they are a cancer eager to nourish on whatever political winds help them toward their end game.

We'll take our chances. After all you're willing to take the blue states of Virginia and Florida, the borderline Blue state of North Carolina, and the future Blue state of Texas. I don't think we need to worry about Utah.

81 posted on 06/28/2013 11:15:28 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

Tar, feather, and place on a rail. Repeat until the state is cleansed.


82 posted on 06/28/2013 11:17:12 AM PDT by needmorePaine
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To: 0.E.O

Texas isn’t going anywhere soon and is the anchor state for conservatism, Virginia and Florida can be brought back to conservative glory, but Utah is so weak on patriotism for a reason.

Utah is supportive of whatever agenda advances it’s twisted goals>

I don’t know what your bizarre reasoning is, Texas out? Our Confederate states out and the polygamy state of Gods in the making at the forefront? What are you smoking?


83 posted on 06/28/2013 11:37:54 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: qam1

Thank goodness Republicans nominated a Mormon!


84 posted on 06/28/2013 11:46:09 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: ansel12

So you’re admitting then that Catholic whites are actually republican?


85 posted on 06/28/2013 11:48:19 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: eekitsagreek

Better question.

IF the republicans want to attract those who reject gay marraige, why are white folks like McCain, et al showing them exactly what they do support.

As far as I’m concerned - the republican party is done. It’s not a reliable supporter of any measure of conservativism, not prolife, not pro traditional marriage. Not border control. On every important issue of the day, we can expect republicans to cave and betray the republic.


86 posted on 06/28/2013 11:51:26 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: no-to-illegals

Not sure about that. I don’t think that Lee had much choice.

If he didn’t engage at Gettysburg, what then? The North would simply have ran and tried to beseige Richmond. Nothing would have changed.


87 posted on 06/28/2013 11:54:03 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge

yep ... lots of what ifs. The most fun of history is the what ifs. Thanks for the post and it makes sense except if Lee had gone southeast in retreat history may have read a little different. Maybe and maybe not.


88 posted on 06/28/2013 11:56:49 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: JCBreckenridge
My post in American history the Catholic vote has only gone republican 5 times and that was without Hispanics, and those “good old days” are already gone.

The recent influx of Hispanics doesn't rewrite history, the Catholic denomination will continue to be a dependable backer for the left's agenda.

89 posted on 06/28/2013 11:59:27 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: ansel12
Texas isn’t going anywhere soon and is the anchor state for conservatism, Virginia and Florida can be brought back to conservative glory, but Utah is so weak on patriotism for a reason.

Ok, you keep Virginia and Florida and try to nurse them back to health. Utah is rock-solid in conservative values and if their young people tend to go off recruiting members for their curch rather than to the recruiting station itself we'll learn to live with it.

Utah is supportive of whatever agenda advances it’s twisted goals.

Don't worry about them. We'll be glad to take them off your hands.

I don’t know what your bizarre reasoning is, Texas out? Our Confederate states out and the polygamy state of Gods in the making at the forefront? What are you smoking?

Nothing at all. I'm not expelling Texas from your Confederate States. Quite the contrary, I wish you and the rest of Dixie all the best. I just don't see any advantage to us in linking our future with your's. Witness your patronizing attitude as if we're crazy not to want to have Texas running things. Like we want to trade New York and Los Angeles condencention for Dallas and Houston? Too many big cities, too many Democrats, too many problems come with you. So thanks, but no thanks. Go on your merry way. Don't worry about us, we'll be just fine. I mean, it's not like we're taking any SEC teams with us.

90 posted on 06/28/2013 12:02:57 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: ansel12

So then you need to qualify your statement so that we understand that Catholics will never vote republican.

That’s why we can continue to have Mormon presidential candidates.


91 posted on 06/28/2013 12:04:36 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: 0.E.O

Arrest of the Maryland Legislature, 1861


92 posted on 06/28/2013 12:07:00 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 0.E.O

Who is “we”, that is writing off Texas, Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida, and singing the praises of the non-patriotic Utah that supports gays in the Boy Scouts and allows Polygamy until they can make it legal, and whose agenda is about finding ways to bring down Christianity in America and defeating the religious right?


93 posted on 06/28/2013 12:07:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: 0.E.O

uh oh .... WAR!


94 posted on 06/28/2013 12:14:08 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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in other news ... Nelson Mandela is improving.
95 posted on 06/28/2013 12:16:47 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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smelling the scent of Wild Angels.


96 posted on 06/28/2013 12:18:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: central_va
Arrest of the Maryland Legislature, 1861

Have you ever read the article you link to? Maryland had a chance to vote for secession in April 1861. As it turns out they voted it down. None of the legislature was arrested before or after the vote. None were threatened. It was an honest expression on the part of the legislature that basically said "A pox on both your houses." They refused to secede, and also declined to support the Union war effort. Fast forward four months. The Southern rebellion is in full force. Armed rebellion is being waged against the federal government. Rebel armies are threatening D.C. And certain members of the Maryland legislature want to join it. So of course they were detained. Only a moron would think that any government would willingly allow criminal acts of treason to go unpunished. So a small minority of the legislature were arrested for their treasonable actions. The rest of the legislature went on doing the work of the people of Maryland.

97 posted on 06/28/2013 12:28:35 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: ansel12
Who is “we”, that is writing off Texas, Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida, and singing the praises of the non-patriotic Utah that supports gays in the Boy Scouts and allows Polygamy until they can make it legal, and whose agenda is about finding ways to bring down Christianity in America and defeating the religious right?

The conservative heartland of the country. Don't worry about us. We'll be just fine.

98 posted on 06/28/2013 12:32:04 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

Good reasons to join.


99 posted on 06/28/2013 12:33:07 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals
Good reasons to join.

Come on out. One thing you have to admit, we'll have plenty of room.

100 posted on 06/28/2013 12:35:03 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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