Day 14 – (Week 3) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread

The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 27, 2013 | Sundance

[Uncle Chip]

Today, June 27th, is DAY #14 (of 3rd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday Witness #8, Rachael Jeantel, did indeed take the stand. She will be back today to complete her testimony. This is the state’s key, and most important witness. This is also the witness we have exhaustively researched. Having quietly followed her social media, and having talked extensively, to her school classmates for over a year.

But before we discuss Jeantel, a summary:

[Yesterday] the morning saw two of the State’s witnesses testify, Jane Sudyka and Jeanee Manaloo, both of whom were residents of Twin Lakes at the time of the incident and who appeared to testify as to their observations that night. Manaloo’s cross-examination continued until after lunch, when she was followed by brief testimony from Ramona Rumph, the custodian of records for the police emergency call recordings.

Finally, the last of the State’s witnesses for the day was Rachel Jeantel, otherwise known as “Dee-Dee”, as Trayvon Martin’s “16-year-old girlfriend,” and as the last person to speak with Martin before his deadly confrontation with George Zimmerman. (continue reading)

[SeaHawkFan]

She is wearing a modest dress. Is it her fault she has a big rack?

[Nervous Tick]

>> And the reporters asked some good questions.

THERE’S a surprise!

OK, I’ll keep an eye out for the video when I have some fat pipe back.

Thx

[xzins]

Can the defense call the local police and prosecutor who declined to prosecute the case?

[NCDave]

If they ever post it..it has been 3 hrs? And the notation is there but, no video..lol. When it comes up it will be so badly edited, that the Lawyer will say "Hello,... and thanks everyone, we'll see you tomorrow."..

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/videos-zimmerman-trial-day-13/nYXhw/

[Political Junkie Too]

I recall hearing reports that Zimmerman said that during his struggle on the ground with Martin, the gun in Zimmerman's belt became exposed and Martin saw it. Zimmerman said that he then grabbed the gun first and shot it at Martin, fearing that Martin would grab it and shoot Zimmerman.

The way that Zimmerman tells it, it was a quick grab and shoot, not a grab, fight over it, and shoot.

We'll see what comes out in the defense's case.

-PJ

[Political Junkie Too]

Is it her fault she has a big rack?

Are you asking if they're real or not?

-PJ

[SeaHawkFan]

A light colored peasant style top over a C-D cup with a padded bra looks bigger than you might think, especially when worn with a dark skirt or bottom part of a dress.

And really, do most men care if they are real or not? Personally, I’m much more of a leg man.

[NCDave]

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Posted: 12:46 p.m. Thursday, June 27, 2013

Videos: Zimmerman trial Day 13

Zimmerman trial Day 13

Trayvon Martin’s friend’s testimony: Part 1

Trayvon Martin’s friend’s testimony: Part 2

Trayvon Martin’s friend’s testimony: Part 3

Trayvon Martin’s friend’s testimony: Part 4

Trayvon Martin’s friend’s testimony: Part 5

Trayvon Martin’s friend’s testimony: Part 6

Trayvon Martin’s friend’s testimony: Part 7

Trayvon Martin’s friend’s testimony: Part 8

Trayvon Martin’s friend’s testimony: Part 9

Trayvon Martin’s friend’s testimony: Part 10

Day 13 Testimony Continues: Part 11

Day 13 Testimony Continues: Part 12

Day 13 Testimony Continues: Part 13

Day 13 Testimony Continues: Part 14

Day 13 Testimony Continues: Part 15

Day 13 Testimony Continues: Part 16

Day 13 Testimony Continues: Part 17

Day 13 Testimony Continues: Part 18

Day 13: Defense Attorney Mark O’Mara News Conference

Day 13: *Trayvon Martin Family News Conference
*due to blatant racism, and lies, this feed
unavailable indefinitely

(I did that ;)

[ConservativeInPA]

That is my understanding as well. However a grab and shoot at close distance is very dangerous. Zimmerman was lucky or well trained. I practice close quarters combat with an unloaded pistol with a laser turned on. It is amazing watching where the pistol (laser) is actually pointed when wrestling with someone. BTW, part of the training is trying to keep distance between the adversary and your weapon at all times. It seems Zimmerman was completely surprised and have the presence of mind to keep that distance requires a lot of awareness. With his head being pounded on the pavement must have taken some of his awareness.

[Political Junkie Too]

I was sarcastically remarking on your question of "Is it her fault..." not "...she has a big rack."

If they're real, then no. If they're augmented, then yes.

-PJ

[XenaLee]

A properly trained concealed carry carrier would have never let Trayvon get that close to him, let alone sneak up on him from behind. But then, hindsight is always 20/20 and I’m sure Z has kicked himself for his mistakes that night.

[Bronzy]

She looked subdued for the first 45 minutes this morning. Then the shoulders twitched and the attitude slowly returned.

[ConservativeInPA]

A properly trained concealed carry carrier would have never let Trayvon get that close to him, let alone sneak up on him from behind.

This is where the education meets reality. I have no idea how the contact was initiated, but I have a feeling the Trayvon was a bit more spry than Zimmerman and could close distance on Zimmerman from behind or the front more quickly than Z could compensate.

[supercat]

The truth is the prosecutors likely recoiled every time this nitwitness opened her mouth.

Hence my immediate self-follow-up. She was trying to tell the prosecution what they wanted to hear, and was lying (albeit very ineptly) on behalf of the prosecution's side. Besides, what's the point of prosecuting someone like her? Prosecutors are only interested in going after generally-honest people (e.g. Shellie Zimmerman)

[ladyjane]

what's the point of prosecuting someone like her?

That's exactly what the North Carolina AG said when he refused to prosecute Crystal Mangum. She went on to kill her boyfriend.

Had the AG prosecuted her it is likely her children would never have been abused in a bad environment and she would never have committed murder.

[tioga]

She was NOT following Zimmerman at all, nor any other Zimmerman. It said she COULD hit follow, but she never did. The prosecutor is clueless as to how twitter works.

[supercat]

That's exactly what the North Carolina AG said when he refused to prosecute Crystal Mangum. She went on to kill her boyfriend.

Yes, but the prosecutor's office job is to serve the political interests of the prosecutor's office, and I'm not sure how prosecuting Dee Dee would fit in with that.

[MileHi]

I wonder if there wasn’t a shot. Zimmerman clears himself into a kneeling position beside the body and then it wouldn’t be unusual to check for life, breath, anything moving. That would be her description. A guy on his knees over-towering a body and not so much the description “on top of” that others have used.

GZ stated (in the reenactment?) that after Trademark was down he got on him and pushed his hands out and up on the ground because he was worried what might be in his hands or under his body. He was not immediately sure of TMs condition. I remember that because I doubted I would have that sort of presence of mind in that situation.

I believe that is what some of the witnesses observed.

[xzins]

I’m much more of a leg man.

I like wings. The middle section is the best part of the entire bird.

:>)

[xzins]

Thank you MileHi. I did not know GZ had stated that.