Yep. Case dismissed!
Posted on 06/27/2013 4:48:28 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, June 27th, is DAY #14 (of 3rd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.
Yesterday Witness #8, Rachael Jeantel, did indeed take the stand. She will be back today to complete her testimony. This is the state’s key, and most important witness. This is also the witness we have exhaustively researched. Having quietly followed her social media, and having talked extensively, to her school classmates for over a year.
But before we discuss Jeantel, a summary:
[Yesterday] the morning saw two of the State’s witnesses testify, Jane Sudyka and Jeanee Manaloo, both of whom were residents of Twin Lakes at the time of the incident and who appeared to testify as to their observations that night. Manaloo’s cross-examination continued until after lunch, when she was followed by brief testimony from Ramona Rumph, the custodian of records for the police emergency call recordings.
Finally, the last of the State’s witnesses for the day was Rachel Jeantel, otherwise known as “Dee-Dee”, as Trayvon Martin’s “16-year-old girlfriend,” and as the last person to speak with Martin before his deadly confrontation with George Zimmerman. (continue reading)
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Given that people are prosecuted for perjury when the question that they answer doesn't quite match what was asked, and given that there are many constructs in English which are mostly similar to those of other languages, but slightly different, I can't really blame anyone who would prefer to testify in their native tongue. Among other things, if a question is asked in English which, because of differences in idioms, would be misunderstood by a non-native English speaker, either a translator will translate the question correctly (ensuring that the witness correctly knows what is being asked) or will translate the question incorrectly (in which case, if the video and/or audio transcript includes the original and translated question, it will be possible to ascertain what question the witness thought he or she was answering).
Then why didn't they prosecute the nitwitness, who lied repeatedly?
Jenna Lauer, an earlier (and smarter) witness has also been summarily found Not Guilty.
If we’re talking about the Hispanic lady, I think she looked fine. She was dressed well and appropriately, and I thought she was modest. I also think, of all the witnesses I’ve seen so far, that she was trying very hard to be fair and precise with her answers.
Because her answers were what the prosecutor wanted to hear.
...or at least tried to be.
I pretty much think you’ve got it nailed.
I’m wondering though about the time element. She heard the shot, she left the kitchen, went outside, walked across the small patio and looked around the privacy fence. That had to take 5 seconds, anyway.
I wonder if there wasn’t a shot. Zimmerman clears himself into a kneeling position beside the body and then it wouldn’t be unusual to check for life, breath, anything moving. That would be her description. A guy on his knees over-towering a body and not so much the description “on top of” that others have used.
The one lady talked about flailing arms like a windmill which could be arms slinging and blocking before the takedown. (If that’s even true....she was impeached, IIRC.)
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/videos-zimmerman-trial-day-13/nYXhw/
“In support”, he said, talking to himself, since talking to Political Junkie Too would constitute a reply.
BTW, I am fully aware of why these corrupt courts do this, as they know damn well, these foreigners who have been in country for 10, 20 and 30+ years, will lie their azzez off then when caught in blatant lies. When cornered in lies they immediately claim, "English is not their native or primary language" after being in country for decades and demand an Interpreter...
I've seen it many times when their inconsistencies start choking them.
In fact, the government has dumped so many millions of foreigners into our country, both legal and illegal, that interpreters ALONE, are now costing the tax payers BILLIONS every year.
Since using interpreters is TOTALLY time consuming, taking 2 and 3 times as long as the typical English speaker... Throw in all the time wasted being language nannys to these people and you're now talking *hundreds* of billions in tax dollars each year.
Tax payers get economically gang banged around the clock on just this interpreter issue alone.
Thanks! You are released from the admonition to not reply to me.
-PJ
No Mr. cat...The truth is the prosecutors likely recoiled every time this nitwitness opened her mouth.
Come on...Even the restrained idiots know she is lying and was a total hostile nitwitness...Ask yourself why she was so hostile...I know why, do you?
Ah... well, I wouldn’t know. I have a twitter account... I’ve made 7 more tweets than this lady. I don’t understand how it works either..
But... I do know, if I’m FOLLOWING people.. it says “Following”... not “FOLLOW”.
She pointed that out at the end... and the Prosecutor immediately gave up on it.
I think she came across as dispassionate, factual, and honest. Stated precisely what she saw and heard without inferring anything else.
So Dave, what was the Martin’s rationale for why they’re not racist? That ought to be *good*.
(I’m bandwidth challenged; can’t watch streaming vid)
You are right. She was dressed fine. She indicated she was an architect and interior designer. She was probably overdressed for the courtroom, but I agree she was dressed “appropriately” for court. I think because she knew this was going to be on National TV, she decided to put on her Sunday go-to-meetin clothes. I suspect she is going to be getting a lot of calls for work in the near future.
Then you'd have to go to the timeline. How long do we think they struggled? Did Zimmerman pull the gun and shoot immediately, or did they struggle over it?
How long they struggle doesn't make a difference, ejection occurs after you pull the trigger. If they struggled over the weapon, that would mean that it could have been pointed in any direction. It is at the moment in time that the trigger is pulled that the angle of the ejection port becomes important. There are 360 degrees that the gun could be rotated. We do know where the barrel was pointed, just not it's rotation.
I'm not sensing that there was enough time for that. Between the records of the calls and the sound of the gunshot on the 911 call, Martin was pounding Zimmerman's head into the ground three times, and then they still had time for a left-right-left-right struggle over the gun before it went off point-blank into Martin's chest?
You point out that Martin was pounding Zimmerman's head into the ground. That says more about whether Trayvon was on top or not than how a weapon ejected a case. BTW, I am convinced by what I have heard and seen outside the trial that Trayvon was going MMA style on top of Zimmerman.
If the casing deflected, that would have shortened the distance it flew when ejected. Can they tell from how far it was found whether it traveled from the full force of ejection, or if it lost energy due to being interfered with in flight?
They can not definitely tell how far it traveled based on body positions. There are a lot of variables. The major three variables would be the weight of the projectile (bullet), the load of powder, and any resistance on the slide of the pistol. A heavier bullet will absorb more of the energy of the powder and reduce ejection distance. A higher charge of powder will increase ejection distance. The converse is also true, a lighter charge of powder will decrease the ejection distance. Any resistance, such as a hand on the pistol slide or the pistol slide being in contact with an arm, clothes, etc. will absorb energy and decrease ejection distance. Something as simple as a limp wrist at the time of fire will cause stove-piping, where the case doesn't even eject, and it gets caught in the ejection port (pointing up, like stovepipe). Obviously, the case did eject, but it could be any range of distances based on how firmly the pistol was held.
I will go with Zimmerman getting the snot kicked out of him and the back of his head being injured to prove that Zimmerman was on the bottom. Wait until the defense calls their witnesses. The state is not going to call anyone that will say Trayvon was bashing Zimmerman's head into the concrete. Most undoubtedly, you can't have your head abused the way Zimmerman's was if Zimmerman was on top.
It is apparent that this conference, claiming that for the Martin family this has nothing to do with race, has its aim to defuse TM's appellation of GZ as a "cracker." If those rallies were aimed to not infuse race, why were Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson invited with their rhetoric inflamming people to racial ire.
That was a question after they tried walking back that this was about racial profiling...you just have to watch it...if they ever post it...I would have shot myself after it..or maybe on air. It was full of lies. And the reporters asked some good questions.
Yep. Case dismissed!
She was a pretty but not beautiful woman who obviously cared about her appearance. More importantly, a few times she very carefully called each lawyer to pay attention to a precise answer rather than to a simple yes or no.
I really have heard nothing yet that affirms that Martin was murdered by someone who did not feel in danger of his life.
The 911 conversation with Zimmerman, a legitimate neighborhood watch volunteer — all by itself — confirms at a minimum that Zimmerman thought he had a suspect, that in other words he was not just out looking for someone to shoot.
The burden is on the prosecution to prove he murdered. Pretty much they’ve established that Zimmerman was present for an altercation, which no one has offered a description of. After the fact, shadows, sounds, heavy breathing, cries....that’s what we’ve heard.
But no one has been able to tie any of that to a person by person chronology.
It is possible, sadly, that these jurors are complete know-nothings who think it’s their job to piece together a conclusion no matter how chaotic are the puzzle pieces.
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