“our actual Jews here..”
A convert is no less a Jewish person that a person born Jewish. Indeed, perhaps more Jewish, in that they knew what they were getting into.
Perhaps this is what you detect.
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“Is Messianic and Noahide related.”
No, not particularly. Noahide are gentiles that follow the laws of Noah set forth in the Bible. (Many Christians mistakenly believe the Covenant of Sinai is applicable to them; this is incorrect, unless said Christians happen to be Jewish, the Laws of Noah apply to them.) Noahides are gentiles who believe they are rejecting false additions to the Torah and follow G-d’s word as delievered to the Gentiles.
“Messianic” in contrast are either:
Jewish people who accept the Nazarine as the Mosiach, and yet reject the Roman additions to their religion, going back to what is, at least superficially, a Jewish-appearing worship. They are typically Orthodox in apppeance and custom, keep kosher, etc.
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Gentiles who adopt a Jewish-looking form of worship, for whatever reason, and can sometimes appear to be Jewish. Sometimes this is done as a subterfuge to trick Jewish people.
tks....very informative