Posted on 06/26/2013 9:12:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Trayvon Martin’s father Tracy has reportedly “attacked” a supporter of George Zimmerman, mouthing an expletive (“motherf***er”) during pre-trial proceedings outside the courtroom during an alleged incident relayed by Zimmerman’s defense attorney Mark O’Mara as he argued that Martin and Trayvon’s mother should be barred from the courtroom if Zimmerman’s parents were.
As George Zimmerman’s trial wears on, the incident in which Tracy Martin allegedly attacked a Zimmerman reporter seems, like many, to skip over what feels to be the actual lurking headline within the story — something more like:
“Trayvon Martin’s Dad Tracy Somehow Miraculously Not Punching Everyone In The Courtroom In The Face, Continuously, As Zimmerman Trial Progresses.”
Debate aside, the Trayvon Martin case is one for which it’s hard to imagine a worse parental nightmare. People without children bristle at the notion that parenthood imbues one with any special ability to feel compassion, empathy, or projected sadness, and it’s true that all people have likely experienced fierce and vulnerable love like the love a parent feels for a child.
But the eternal curse of a parent is the one Trayvon’s mom and dad have to know so intimately — that fear that as they step out into the world, they will be slow to develop the ability to detect and evade the ill-intentioned. That if this horrible happenstance occurs, they will come to harm much like Martin did and we will be unable to intervene and protect them.
So too in life it feels like nothing is so unfair as compounded pain, and when Martin died at the hands of Zimmerman that night in 2012, the series of insults added to the Martin and Fulton families’ injury had yet to begin....
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So it was Skittles ORiGINAL...I thought it might be Skittles Wild Berry or Skittles Tropical.
Like son, like parents . . like friends. Lowlife, scum, bigots, thugs, dumbasses . .all rolled into one unhappy dysfunctional family
Too bad the defence attorneys didn’t put Martin’s parents on the witness list.
Acting like a thug, eh? wow.
If he could only just stop and think that he’s acting just like his thug kid.... Oh wait....
forget about the thinking part.
I,too,am a Christian...a noticeably imperfect one.But tell me....if one or both of a child's parents fail that child in a substantial way,in a completely avoidable way...can that parent be held responsible to any degree for the child in question "going wrong"?
I think you know what I'm driving at and I have no evidence that that happened with Martin but I still have the hunch that it did.
If you mean by God, yes he can, and the parent had best repent like any of us.
If you mean by me, well its not my job to hold people morally accountable beyond how it is my responsibility in culture (for example, I would not want irresponsible adults to look after my children, or those of others if I were in charge of a school etc).
The hard part of the question is how far the law ought to hold parents accountable for things their children do due to bad influence. And I guess there are some cases where it would be clearly appropriate...like a parent encouraging their 5 year old shop lift...and those where it was clearly not appropriate, and those in between.
So that might mean,among other things,that you couldn't vote to convict a person,regardless of the evidence,if you were a juror? Sorry...I can't even come close to that position.I guess one day I'll have to deal with my Creator if my basic attitude is substantially at odds with His expectations.
No, that is not at all what I mean. If I am on a jury, or if I am a judge by profession, it is then my role to judge as society requires.
I can't even come close to that position.I guess one day I'll have to deal with my Creator if my basic attitude is substantially at odds with His expectations.
You got me thinking there of what CS Lewis has said on the whole subject of forgiveness, which I hold as brilliantly insightful and very worth reading.
They are not witnesses. They were added to the possible witness list to keep them out of the courtroom. State doesn't want the jury to see that they are not white.
They will not be called to the stand.
I just recently became familiar with the concept to which you refer.There's a huge case in Federal court in Boston in which James "Whitey" Bulger,formerly of the FBI's Ten Most Wanted List,is on trial for several dozen murders and other naughty deeds.A well known Boston talk host,columnist and author,who's *hated* by the Bulgers,was placed on the witness list...by the defense...in order to keep him out of the courtroom.Carr,the talk host,fought it before the court and succeeded in being taken off the witness list.
Assuming your theory about the Zimmermans is correct (which seems very likely) one would think that the defense could have played the same game with Saint Trayvon's family,who've been sitting prominently in the gallery weeping openly all the while (and,apparently,calling a Zimmerman supporter a "motherbleeper").
Defense could have but it would not have worked to their advantage. Letting these new-found millionaires with absolutely no self-control plays to the defense. Jurors can clearly see that they are acting out and not sincere.
The state has no case and they know it.
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