Posted on 06/25/2013 1:04:25 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
As the first anniversary of her graduation in eco-tourism and cultural history approaches, Linnea Borjars remains jobless and frustrated.
After finishing her studies at Sweden's Linkoping University, the 25-year-old accepted an unpaid, part-time position at Fair Travel, a non-profit group focused on human rights and tourism, hoping it would lead to a full-time job and a salary.
But no such luck.
Borjars' situation is a reflection of the depth of the European economic crisis. It is not only unemployment but also underemployment - including workers who are overqualified, interns who are unpaid or low-paid and part-time employees who want full-time work - that has reached critical levels in many EU countries, and could leave a permanent financial and psychological mark on a generation.
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
Something useful, like gunsmithing or moose attack prevention.
“Coming to America.”
I believe it has already come.
So much for my plans to go back to school, and studying eco-tourism.
Laws that have made it difficult to fire workers have ... guess what ... made employers reluctant to hire them in the first place.
A girl like her would have been much better off learning the domestic arts and marrying a Swedish lumberjack and cooking, sewing, washing and having blond babies. That’s how it was. Now the kids get educated for bullshit jobs whether the jobs exist or not. So now she works for a useless non -profit. In America a lass like her would have gotten a law degree and gone to work for an environmental activist organization and become an attack dog against the private productive sectors.
I know what you ar saying but as I tell my students, it doesn’t matter what your major is. You are your won employer. If you can’t create value for others, the best degree in the world won”t help.
another useless degree like so many in America today, why? Because it’s an easy course, 4 years of messing about and partying
degrees in 4 years of minority studies is just B/S and an easy way for kids to get degrees and then think they should be given a job
I just had a preliminary phone interview with a developer candidate. He was 25ish. Within 3 minutes he had told me how much he hated corporate structure and being required to have semi-standard hours (his last employer wanted him in the office between 10-4 but it was annoying to him they asked him to come in earlier), how he disliked having to attend meetings that talked about design, “just let him code” were his words, and how he hated people looking over his shoulder (his words “it sucked”). After 3 questions I bid him good luck and we’d let him know...
And these goobers wonder why they cannot get a real job outside the gaming/start-up industry? They have no respect for battle-tested processes that make money. Honestly I am getting sick and tired of these entitled pansies... and they blame the boomers for their woes. I have not seen one “kid” under 28 or so that can code for sh_t. Outside iPhone apps, games, and social media BS stuff they have no concept of business software. They think that we will give them a one page document and check on them once a month while throwing money at them.
Been here a while. I doubt that there are many eco-tourism or cultural history majors working in their field in the U.S. All this means is that Sweden is catching up to us: get a useless degree then you get the kind of job you deserve. Or no job at all.
She should have majored in Womyn’s Studies.
I only needed to read to first sentence to see what the problem was.....
Nobody owes these idiots a job.
If you can't find a frikken job...create one (i.e. make a product, perform a needed service, buy and resell something needed in a unique location...just get up off your lazy @ss and do something).
Modern humans are just so darned pathetic!
Your comments remind me of a situation years ago when I was out of college a few years and working for an international product company. One day I was called into the office of my boss for job/career evaluation. I was asked what I thought was a reasonable goal as to helping the company. I was a chemical engineer working on product development. After a few moments of thought I told my boss that I thought it was a fair deal that I should give the company a 2 for 1 return on their investment in me. The boss was taken back because I believe he had never looked at employment in such a simple framework.
Several problems here. Eco tourism in Europe? That’s like learning Animal Husbandry in Manhattan.
Second problem. Liberal Arts. You only have two choices with that, 1) Starbucks, 2) Law School.
The liberals in power want the useful idiots to be stupid. And the idiots oblige. They bankrupt them with college loans, they give them no opportunity to grow and then they use them as fodder in their fight against their political enemies.
And when called out on it they bleat....Ohhhhhbahhhhhmaaaaaa.
I bet I can find you a good developer.
What? You guys actually design!? And involve the lower-end guys on it!?
This is Computer Science [Software Engineering] we're talking, right? (Most companies I've applied with seem to either want coders
[i.e. cut-n-paste script monkeys] and/or have the cookie-cutter mentality [we need 2-5 years experience in the industry, with these tools/environment for this entry-level job].)
And these goobers wonder why they cannot get a real job outside the gaming/start-up industry? They have no respect for battle-tested processes that make money.
Well, to be fair the industry is kinda stupid: I was told by an interviewer that they wanted someone with more OOP experience
even though I've done Delphi, Ada 2005, some C#, and a touch of Java. [They wanted C#-experience, and so likely discounted all other experience I had with OOP.] — another thing that disturbs me about the industry is how many don't know the proper tools for the task (i.e. everything should be addressed with the C/C++/C# [or PHP if its web-based] hammer — even if it would be simple in something like LISP, or FORTH)*.
Honestly I am getting sick and tired of these entitled pansies... and they blame the boomers for their woes. I have not seen one “kid” under 28 or so that can code for sh_t. Outside iPhone apps, games, and social media BS stuff they have no concept of business software. They think that we will give them a one page document and check on them once a month while throwing money at them.
One page? I think I'd rather have a real specification than play the game of infinite tweaks and bug-fixes
— you can get seriously screwed if you have a different/lower rate for bug-fixes than new-features and the client slides what would be new features into the bug-fix requests. That simply doesn't happen with a proper specification: it is either conformant or non-conformant.
* List and stack-oriented languages force a different approach, one that is far more suitable for some types of problems than c-style languages, or even the procedural/imperative (or OOP) paradigms.
No cut and paste here. We are not bleeding edge, but we do want all new code to be vetted through some sort of design so we avoid building layers of unmaintainable junk that you can never get rid of without bringing the system down.
We have an internet app but our revenue maker is a client/server database app that actually has to be installed. The web apps I am currently proposing a redesign, they were made with too much code in the UI. Internet apps (desktops too) need to have a stupid as possible UI layer that only handles rendering nothing else. My predecessor lead a design that put too much business logic in the web layer and it really sucks.
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