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Lightning strike from Mama Grizzly!

(((PING)))

Stay with us, Sarah!

RE :”Look no further than the fact that Senator Rubio and amnesty supporters nixed Senator Thune’s amendment that required the feds to finally build part of a needed security fence before moving forward on the status of illegal immigrants who’ve already broken the law to be here.”

Go Sarah!

But.... But... Sarah Palin is just an idiot! The “media” and other liberals tell me so!

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

George Orwell

“But I join every American with an ounce of common sense “

That lets out 90% of our politicians in Washington.

Brava, Governor Palin!

Run Sarah, Run!

From Eagle Forum this AM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3034894/posts

BURN UP THE PHONE LINES! both parties are screwing us with this 1000 page bill. We already provide them food, schooling, housing, free health care and cell phones under other welfare laws. MSM refuses to report the number of murder, rape and other crimes they commit. Now Mexicans are turning muslim and embracing jhadism.

She’s right of course, and the only solution to the problem is to quit messing around with these alleged “representatives” who are NOT representing our interests, but the interests of the evil, self serving, POWER hungry Marxist political machine that wants no borders, and ultimately THEIR New World Order, by primarying them out while we can, eliminating their presence in our government, by flushing the Congressional bowl. Pull the chain once, twice, three times, whatever it takes to flush the Socialist, New World Order debris from the Congressional bowl, then instill a reformed smaller Conservative government with give a damn about America representation of the people.

Get rid of what is today, and revive the system that made this country the greatest Nation on the face of this Earth.

Down here in Florida I’m looking forward to a conservative primarying Rubio in a few years. Hopefully Allen West will step up.

U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every state in the union a republican form of government,

AND SHALL PROTECT EACH OF THEM AGAINST INVASION."

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Gov. Palin,

I'm sorry. I support you in every way.

But you had your chance and you blew it.

You could have supported J.D. Hayworth in his primary challenge of Mc Cain.

But you didn't. You supported Mc Cain, one of the chief architects of this hideous bill.

And your candidate, Kelly Ayotte, slapped your support right in the face.

I understand why you supported them, but they betrayed you ... both of them. They betray us too.

I might add that this monster of a bill was rolled out on a Friday when most Americans were busy doing their weekend activities. The bill will be voted on before anyone has knowledge of what’s in it. Just like Obamacare. Sarah was right when she said it was being Pelosied.

Okay, well then, here's the article that some folks are touting as the anouncement of Palin's reversal on immigration fix policies? Unfortunately, that's not what it is. This is nothing more or less than a disagreement with the Senate Bill. So while I appreciate Palin's objection to this Senate bill, and what's more I am willing to extend kudos to her for having done it, I cannot view this as a complete repudiation of what she has formerly stated she supports as it relates to illegal immigrant fixes. Why? Lets look at this.

Just like they did with Obamacare, some in Congress intend to “Pelosi” the amnesty bill. They’ll pass it in order to find out what’s in it. On this point we agree. And just like the unpopular, unaffordable Obamacare disaster, this pandering, rewarding-the-rule-breakers, still-no-border-security, special-interests-ridden, 24-lb disaster of a bill is not supported by informed Americans. We agree here also.

I am an ardent supporter of legal immigration. I used to be, but I have seen what even legal immigration is doing to our nation these days. We need a full immigraton moratorium for twenty to thirty years. I’m proud that our country is so desirable that it has been a melting pot making a diverse people united as the most exceptional nation on earth for over two centuries. Yes, as do most of us, but American is no longer a melting pot. It has been so flooded by legal and illegal immigrants, that assimilation is impossible. We simply must assimilate the people already here, before allowing more in even legally. But I join every American with an ounce of common sense insisting that any discussion about immigration must center on a secure border. We agree here. The amnesty bill before the Senate is completely toothless on border security. I believe that to be true. It's a travesty. We should object to it, and I am glad Palin agrees.

It’s beyond disingenuous for anyone to claim that a vote for this bill is a vote for security. Agreed. Look no further than the fact that Senator Rubio and amnesty supporters nixed Senator Thune’s amendment that required the feds to finally build part of a needed security fence before moving forward on the status of illegal immigrants who’ve already broken the law to be here. Agreed again. And if shooting down the border fence wasn't proof enough, they blew another chance by killing Senator Paul’s “Trust But Verify” amendment which required the completion of a fence in five years and required Congress to vote on whether the border is actually secure before furthering any immigration measures. Once again we agree. And then they blew it yet again, nixing Senator Cornyn’s “Results” amendment, which also required border enforcement standards. We agree again here. Now the Senate’s pro-amnesty crowd is offering a fig leaf to security via the Corker-Hoeven Amendment, but this is really nothing more than empty promises. Of course it is. It’s amnesty right now and border security… eh, well, someday. We agree here also. Sadly, with all this agreement between Sarah and I, a point is coming that will render almost every bit of this disagreement moot.

If this bill was genuinely concerned with border security, it might include practical solutions for those states that live with the problem every single day. Pass-through grants could be given to border states to actually build a fence. The most responsive and responsible level of government is the most local, and since governors accept pass-throughs all the time, this is a workable solution. I agree with this in concept. What this opens to door to, is states building whatever kind of fence they want. One state goes ahead and builds the double fence with moat. The next state builds a single six foot tall barbed wire fence. IMO, we don't get full security if we have a hodge podge effort with very weak points along the border. I agree that states should be in control of the funding. I agree that government is better when local. That all sounds great until you realize we can't afford to dilly dally any longer. This fence must be built now, and built right. We could also free up more federal lands along the border to be privatized. The farmers and ranchers would have a clear incentive to keep their private property secure from the flow of illegal immigrants and/or other illegal activities trafficked across the border onto land they’d cultivate. The follow up sentence here conveys that Palin thinks this is a commons sense solution. Sadly it's not. It merely displays the sad fact that Palin really doesn't understand this issue very well. I know she means well here, but folks we have read about what happens to farms on the border for several decades now. Here Palin ignores that disgusting history to propose farmers become the border patrol agents on their land. I have no doubt that she thinks this is a common sense solution. Is it? No. There are plenty of other commonsense solutions, but this bill isn’t about fixing problems; it’s about amnesty at all costs. I agree with that.

When every commonsense, concrete, and verifiable measure to secure the border is stripped away, despite politicians’ promises, what are we supposed to rely on to ensure that our currently unsecured border will be fixed in the future? If D.C. expects us to just sit back and “trust” them despite our permanent political class and Washington bureaucrats proving themselves so very untrustworthy, then I have a bridge to somewhere in Alaska to sell them. Our government is awash in one scandal after another involving blatant lies and violations of our basic liberties, and the leader of the pack ventures out on one road trip after another to avoid accountability. I agree with this.

Just like they did for Obamacare, the permanent political class is sugaring this bill with one goody after another to entice certain senators to vote for it. Look no further than page 983 of the bill, which contains a special visa exemption for foreign seafood workers in the 49th state despite huge unemployment numbers in the American workforce. This is obviously a hidden favor designed to buy the votes of Alaska Senators Murkowski and Begich. No doubt it is. You're right to call them out on it Sarah.

And just like Obamacare, this amnesty bill fails on every level of economic sanity and sane reform. It offers no solutions. It will barely slow the flow of illegal immigration, which means we can expect millions and millions of new illegal aliens in coming years. Sort of what happened when we passed amnesty in 1986 without securing our borders first. That's right.

According to the CBO, the bill won’t stop illegal immigration, but it will drive down wages for average hardworking Americans. Exactly! These would be the same blue-collar working class voters of every ethnicity who chose to sit home in 2012 instead of turning out to vote in the swing states we needed to carry in order to stop Barack Obama’s promised “fundamental transformation” of America. Once again we agree. I note this just as a helpful reminder to those who believe the hyperventilated new hype claiming that conservatives need to support this bill in order to win future elections. That’s 100% wrong. Yes it is. The crony capitalists in D.C. and their corporatist friends on Wall Street might think this amnesty boondoggle is a great idea, but the average American worker in our middle class who'll soon see lower wages is the one left out in the cold, along with those hard working immigrants who followed the rules and are working here legally. Yep, you're right once again here Sarah.

Passing this bill with an unsecured border and within a growing welfare state under Barack Obama is economic insanity. I agree. Have people already forgotten that our bankrupt government is running up massive unsustainable deficits every year? We can’t afford to pay the piper now, much less the trillions of dollars more in welfare and entitlements for the millions who are here illegally today that will be granted this bill’s benefits. That's right Sarah. According to the Heritage Foundation, the bill provides only a temporary delay in granting illegal immigrants eligibility for all U.S. welfare and entitlement programs. That's right Sarah. We’re looking at an explosion of costs in the very near future. That's right Sarah. There is no way to pay for the added untold millions of new enrollees in these growing government programs. That's right Sarah. Pass this, Congress, and Obama will have succeeded in fundamentally transforming America. That's right Sarah.

Again, I am supportive of legal immigration and am as sympathetic as the next person to the aspirations of people who come here to work hard and live a better life than the poverty and unfree environments they left behind. Which in spirit, we all are. So many are drawn here because we are an exceptional nation where freedom provides an equal opportunity for everyone to work hard and make something of themselves. But a key part of American exceptionalism is the rule of law. That's right Sarah. Border security is fundamental to the rule of law, as is incentivizing those who follow the legal path to citizenship instead of punishing them by promoting lawbreakers. That's right Sarah. This is non-negotiable. Not so fast Sarah Palin...

It’s time our lawmakers remember that we are a sovereign nation of laws. That's right Sarah. This bill ignores that, and ignores the will of the people. That's right Sarah. The continued porous border goes against what politicians assured us was in this mountain-high bill, and in typical D.C. style it flies in the face of what many politicians campaigned on. That's right Sarah. I heard their campaign promises. You heard them, too. Yes, we did hear them The only problem for you, is we heard you also. You go ahead for now.

It’s time for concerned Americans to flood our legislators’ phone lines with the input they need to hear from We the People. Sounds great Sarah. Join the mama grizzlies who are rearing up tirelessly to swat away false claims that amnesty is a good thing. Cheer on the Moma Grizzlies Sarah. Michelle Malkin rightly said the issue is not secure the border first, it’s “secure the border. Period.” Yep, I can agree with Michelle Malkin. I always do. Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter have also offered superb warnings on amnesty’s economic impacts to the middle class. Yes they have, and I agree with them.

As the Senate moves to pass amnesty, the only bright spot in this travesty is the rallying revolution we can look forward to. Whew, you're running out of time here Sarah. I agree here, but you have said an awful lot that doesn't mean jack if you don't renounce your plans to register illegals so they can stay here and work. For just as opposition to Obamacare became a rallying cry for the 2010 midterm elections, opposition to this fundamentally transforming amnesty bill will galvanize the grassroots in next year’s elections. For a person whose core plan is registration, instant legalization, and pathway to citizenship over time, your plan is little different than this plan. And 2014 is just around the corner. It sure is. And so is 2016.

- Sarah Palin

Palin says all the right things. She exploits our fears and desires here. And boy does it sound good..., until you start to think about it. Is any of this any different than her plan to register illegals, then let them stay here and work? Is the current Senate plan for instant legalization any different than her instant legalization. Is their pathway to citizenship fundamentally different than her pathway to citizenship?

She kavetches at their "in essence" amnesty. Some of us kavetch at her work around that results in the same thing. Has Palin renounced her plan? I see nothing here to indicate that. Some folks will say that she speaks out against Amnesty, so obviously she has changed her mind. NO! She spoke out against amnesty when she aired her plans for pathway last time. If she does it, it's all good. If the current Senate bill does it, it's wrong. Sarah is merely another in a long line of Republicans who talk out of both sides of their face. They can talk for hours and say everything you want to hear..., except promise that they will not give instant legalization, will not let them stay and work, and will not provide a pathway to citizenship.

She's got a lot of catch phrases here. She goes populist with the best of them. She makes great quotes. She seems to really get it. And then it dawns on you..., she really doesn't.

Palin said an awful lot here, that goes completely null and void, if she implements the plan she has stated in public that she supports. Everything she complains about here, it's just the same under her plan. Citzens hurting now because they are out of work in part because of foreign labor on our soil. are still aced out. Legal immigrants are still aced out. All the problems with government funds for current illegals will remain. She sees that clearly here, but under her plan... she borrows Glenda's magic wond and it all goes away. NO! It really doesn't Sarah.

She doesn't voice suport for ending all freebies. She doesn't voice support for repatriation. She doesn't voice support for cutting off their ability to work here. She can't. That is in no way related to her plan. She knows it. Anyone reading what she has stated with an open mind, knows it.

On immigration, Palin is not one of us. The claim that this is a complete reversal of her prior policy is an invalid claim.

Her having not renounced this, Palin's stated policy is still the same.

To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented (illegal aliens) immigrants?

I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

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