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Lincoln on the Defensive
http://spectator.org ^ | June 20 2013 | By CHRISTOPHER ORLET

Posted on 06/23/2013 5:55:07 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

From the time Abraham Lincoln entered the White House nearly a century and a half ago, there has been an anti-Lincoln tradition in American life. President John Tyler’s son, writing in 1932, seemed to speak for a silent minority: “I think he was a bad man,” wrote Lyon Gardiner Tyler, “a man who forced the country into an unnecessary war and conducted it with great inhumanity.”

Throughout his presidency Lincoln was surrounded by rivals, even among his own cabinet. Outside the White House, his many enemies included conservative Whigs, Democrats, northern copperheads and New England abolitionists. Wisconsin editor, Marcus M. Pomeroy, sniped that Lincoln was a

“worse tyrant and more inhuman butcher than has existed since the days of Nero.”

Shortly before his reelection Pomeroy added: “The man who votes for Lincoln now is a traitor and murderer.… And if he is elected to misgovern for another four years, we trust some bold hand will pierce his heart with dagger point for the public good.”

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To: central_va

“there in NOTHING you can teach me about anything.”

Obviously.


361 posted on 06/26/2013 5:18:11 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

That crazy idiot couldn’t teach a fish how to swim.


362 posted on 06/26/2013 5:31:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Should be “self deluded”....

Just so you know.


363 posted on 06/26/2013 3:55:09 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: central_va
"You self delude fool, there in NOTHING you can teach me about anything.

Also should be "... there is NOTHING you can teach me about anything. " There. Two!

364 posted on 06/26/2013 4:13:54 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

I posted that at 5:32 AM so give me a break.


365 posted on 06/26/2013 4:16:07 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: donmeaker

You ever tried to teach a fish to swim? Just curious, cause this one is drowning.


366 posted on 06/26/2013 4:20:37 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

You recall the story about the fish breeders that using genetic splicing were able to make a hybrid of the Coho Salmon and the Walleye? They called their hybrid the Co-Wal, and thought they would have a really good fighting fish that would provide excellent sport.

Alas, the females lost their roe on the rocky stream beds, and was unable to breed.

So they went back to the lab, and added in genes from the Muskie. Now what was sure to provide good sport and good breeding potential.

They called the double cross bred hybrid the Cowalski-— and if only they could teach the dumb son of a b____ to swim!


367 posted on 06/26/2013 4:27:08 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: central_va

You are right, I was nit picking.

Have you found anyone else who put companies of sharp shooters behind their attacking brigades, to encourage their motivation, while his army was running low on men?


368 posted on 06/26/2013 4:30:00 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

Like I said both sides had file closers. And to tell the truth the ones fighting like them, kept the rif raff in line.


369 posted on 06/26/2013 5:33:26 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: donmeaker

August 9, 1960

Dear Dr. Scott:

Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to understand that at the time of the War Between the States the issue of Secession had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character, public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was adopted.

General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his belief in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.

From deep conviction I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s caliber would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.

Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.

Sincerely,

Dwight D. Eisenhower


370 posted on 06/26/2013 5:36:00 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: donmeaker

we must not forget the words of Booker T. Washington, America’s great Black-American Educator, who said,

“The first white people in America, certainly the first in the South to exhibit their interest in the reaching of the Negro and saving his soul through the medium of the Sunday-school were Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson.”


371 posted on 06/26/2013 5:39:05 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
“The first white people in America, certainly the first in the South to exhibit their interest in the reaching of the Negro and saving his soul through the medium of the Sunday-school were Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson.”

What a crock.

372 posted on 06/26/2013 5:43:29 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: central_va

“I think Ulysses S. Grant is vastly underrated as a man and as a general. I know people think this and that about his drinking habits, which I think have been exaggerated way out of line. The fact is, he never demanded more men or material from the war department, he took over an army that had a long history of retreating and losing. That army had no confidence in their fighting ability and Grant came in as a real outsider. He had so many disadvantages going into the 1864 campaign, now 100 years ago. But he met every test and rose to the occasion unlike I’ve ever seen in American history. He was a very tough yet very fair man and a great soldier. He’s not been given his due...Grant devised a strategy to end the war. He alone had the determination, foresight, and wisdom to do it. It was lucky that President Lincoln didn’t interfere or attempt to control Grant’s strategic line of thinking. Lincoln wisely left the war to Grant, at least in the concluding moves after he came east. Grant is very undervalued today, which is a shame, because he was one of the greatest American generals, if not the greatest.” — Dwight D. Eisenhower, July 1964


373 posted on 06/26/2013 5:45:51 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O
What a crock

Keep Stone Mountain carving a Confederate Memorial

374 posted on 06/26/2013 5:57:14 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Still a crock. Lee had nothing to do with Sunday schools and Jackson was nowhere near the first white Southerner to teach in one.


375 posted on 06/26/2013 6:00:58 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: central_va

Oddly, I haven’t seen any orders for US Army soldiers to shoot down stragglers.

Have you?


376 posted on 06/26/2013 7:31:58 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

The state of the Confederacy in March of ‘65 was not good. So if you want to characterize General Lee’s overall integrity by what happened in the last weeks of his command then go ahead.


377 posted on 06/27/2013 5:54:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
So if you want to characterize General Lee’s overall integrity by what happened in the last weeks of his command then go ahead.

I characterize Lee's overall integrity by the fact that he forsook his oath as an officer in the United States army to take up arms against it.

378 posted on 06/27/2013 8:38:08 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: central_va

One’s integrity is marked by what you do or won’t do when given temptation.

As with Lee.


379 posted on 06/27/2013 8:39:26 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: central_va

Why Stone Mountain? It was the site of the first KKK meeting (the new nostalgic KKK murderers, not the post war murderers.)


380 posted on 06/27/2013 8:41:43 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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