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1 posted on 06/23/2013 6:59:11 AM PDT by iowamark
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Where's The FENCE!
2 posted on 06/23/2013 7:01:50 AM PDT by Paladin2
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3 posted on 06/23/2013 7:05:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Rubio cannot leave politics soon enough to suit me , I hope Allan West Primary’s him.


4 posted on 06/23/2013 7:07:09 AM PDT by Venturer
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Any Republican who votes for this POS is a traitor and needs to be sent packing! McCain, McRubio, McGrahamnesty, McFlake, et al, can all go straight to hell!


5 posted on 06/23/2013 7:08:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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The biggest hole I see with the “amnesty” bill, is the one which isn’t apparent, and which is certain to come up shortly after the bill passes, if it does.

The hole is the number of years. So, the number of years mentioned before someone becomes legal, might be 11 years.

But, soon after the bill passes, there will be millions of illegals and thousands of liberal legislators, including all of the liberal members in congress, and the president, who will look to speed up the process. The excuse for speeding it up will be along the line of, “well, we will be legalizing them in 11 years, so, what’s the problem with speeding up the process?”. Then there will be new bills introduced to cut the years to 5 or 3 or 1, or even none. If we accepted that those 11 million (no doubt many millions more) could be legal in 11 years, the logic for rushing for quicker amnesty, will be logical to most who are now in approval of the bill. And so, amnesty will be with us a lot quicker than most people had expected, and the current bill will have been just a stepping stone to almost immediate amnesty.


6 posted on 06/23/2013 7:14:45 AM PDT by adorno (Y)
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When this Bill passes, in any form, Obama will have succeeded in fundamentally transforming America.

This is the final hump, it will be all downhill from here, unstoppable from a political perspective, IMO.

I watched Atlas Shrugged II last night, it is all there, and happening right before our eyes.


9 posted on 06/23/2013 7:29:17 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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I have just decided a sound border fence is not a good idea.
The way things are going it would likely soon be used to keep us in rather than keep others out. A better idea, IMO, is to use the electronic system by which people can absolutely not get a job or benefits or healthcare without being a citizen. That in itself could possibly be interpreted as the mark of the beast. We have to be careful here, but I don’t want big sis locking us in like with the Berlin Wall.


11 posted on 06/23/2013 7:37:21 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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I know a lot of legal Hispanics. I have talked to them at length. Some of them are Republicans. Most don't vote and could care less. The political astute of them call those 'low information' individuals.

The common thread I get from all of this is that if Mexico's economy was conducive to employing their citizens then they wouldn't come into the U.S.

But the problem with Mexico is corruption and no real jobs for the less educated.

12 posted on 06/23/2013 8:20:47 AM PDT by Parmy
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If anyone other than congress (and accountability) makes the rules for the application of any immigration reform/border security, I ain't buying it!

And forget the...

"You got to let us pass the bill in order to see what's in it" bullshit is NOT going to fly this time.

13 posted on 06/23/2013 8:39:31 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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The border states could force the fed’s hand in this by asking for volunteers to defend their state against invasion. I’m sure they’d get plenty of helpers!

Article I, Section 10 declares that no state may “engage in War, unless actually invaded ...” which certainly seems to be the case here.

There are tons of issues, including Constitutional questions, involved with militia call-ups and/or National Guard deployments. If a governor sent the National Guard to the border, the President could step in and call them back, which wouldn’t help the state but would make for some interesting headlines!

But what about the “Irregular” militia, e.g. volunteers? Couldn’t the states call for volunteers, give them a week or two of training, appoint officers and non-coms (maybe from the National Guard?) then send them to stand guard over the border?

If Rubio & Co. adamantly refuse to secure the border, there are other ways ...


14 posted on 06/23/2013 8:40:04 AM PDT by DNME (Tired of being polite? Bring back the Sons of Liberty!)
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So all illegal immigrants are Hispanic?


18 posted on 06/23/2013 8:55:37 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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