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Judge bars audio experts from George Zimmerman trial who say screams were not Zimmerman
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 6/22/13 | By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner

Posted on 06/22/2013 7:39:32 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001

In a major victory for murder suspect George Zimmerman, a judge today ruled that prosecutors may not put on the witness stand two state audio experts who say the voice heard screaming in the background of a 911 call was someone other than Zimmerman.

The judge had heard three days of testimony about the science used by the state's experts and ruled that it failed to meet Florida's legal standard.

One of the experts, Alan R. Reich, had concluded the voice he identified as Trayvon is heard yelling "I'm begging you" and "stop." The other, Tom Owen, says he ruled Zimmerman out as the screamer with biometric software.

Both are now banned.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: fraud; martin; sanford; zimmerman
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To: ArmstedFragg
You're absolutely correct, Fragg.

They'll find something racist, "unfair" or biased from the defense team or the judge every day till the final verdict.

Leni

81 posted on 06/22/2013 1:09:56 PM PDT by MinuteGal (SO)
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To: Cboldt
The upper limit frequency on phone transmission is something less than 4 kHz.

Land-line phones pass through basically everything from about 300Hz to 3300Hz, since decades of research and usage have shown such range to be adequate for people's voices to sound the way people expect them to sound on a telephone. Digital phone systems have, for the last couple decades, sampled audio at an 8KHz rate with 8-bits per sample and sent is as a 64kbps stream of bits.

Digital mobile phones need to use lower data rates, so rather than trying to send all frequency components simultaneously, they identify the most important parts of the signal and just sent the characteristics of those. All other information in the signal is abandoned. Audio which has been processed in good enough for mobile subscribers to tolerate, but it often doesn't sound a whole lot like the original, and is basically useless for forensic analysis.

82 posted on 06/22/2013 7:15:59 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Yes, spontaneous utterances are most revealing. . .and most times admissible.


83 posted on 06/23/2013 6:31:12 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: sheikdetailfeather
No wonder the prosecutors charged him with second degree murder. This is a different case.

I don't follow your logic.
Why is it different case? and why does it warrant a charge of 2nd degree murder?

84 posted on 06/23/2013 6:40:02 AM PDT by kanawa (FB...Save George Zimmerman from racial onslaught)
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O’Mara:

http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/raw-omara-discusses-audio-expert-ruling/v44x5/


85 posted on 06/23/2013 9:24:52 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Why was Trayvon Martin suspicious to George Z:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Mdxw8aByLGQ#at=20

Have a good night’s sleep, Bernie.


86 posted on 06/23/2013 10:25:34 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: supercat

To add to what you said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_opinion_score - audible deficiencies in codec quality.

The eight bit sampling at 8 kHz with no compression example, is G.711, which already has artifacts showing up.

These are just for the basic encoding. Microphone quality, any digital to analog coversions, and recording medium all worsen this - without getting to microphone placement and background events; or decoding reconstructions due to bit loss, comfort noise,and echo cancellation.


87 posted on 06/23/2013 3:02:10 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: kanawa

It seemed to me the adjusted statement was very different from the original - enough so that it could be describing a different incident.


88 posted on 06/23/2013 3:04:04 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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