Posted on 06/22/2013 6:44:21 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
If we are to believe candidate Marco Rubios comments during an Oct. 24, 2010 debate, it seems the Florida senators views on immigration reform have evolved quite a bit since taking office.
During a debate with opponents Rep. Kendrick Meek and Gov. Charlie Crist, candidate Rubio argued that giving illegal immigrants an earned path to citizenship, which Crist, Sen. John McCain and former President George W. Bush had advocated, is basically amnesty.
"First of all, earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty. It's what they call it," Rubio said. "And the reality of it is this: This has to do with the bottom line that America cannot be the only country in the world that does not enforce its immigration laws. It is unfair to the people that have legally entered this country to create an alternative pathway for individuals who entered illegally and knowingly did so."
"If you do that, you will never have a legal immigration system that works," he continued. "No one is going to follow the law if there is an easier way to do it."
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Problem I see is a few years up the road we start trying to expand the base and let others in and soon we are infested with rinos-in-the-making.
I still see the only answer as an all out war on RINOISM and holding back money from the rnc and only fund conservative candidates individually. IT can be done and we can do it.
Sorry, that's disappointing to me, not his skin color.
He’s a disappointment because he ran on a full conservative agenda, was once against amnesty, he has the ability to speak well, has made some great entrepreneurial anti-socialist speeches, and now he’s turned.
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Symptoms of a contagion within the Republican Party. Turners and cavers is what they all eventually become.
When you analyze it and I have a lot, one of the only things that makes sense is corruption.
What if Rubio got an offer he could not refuse,maybe told to take a lot of money or be banished to serfdom for the rest of your natural life. Not saying that actually happened but it sure looks logical at this point.
What else can reverse what he should already know? He should know as much as we do here. That you can not trust any Democrat that makes any deal with us in this regime. They have an agenda.They never obey any law they don't like and have never negotiated with us at all on anything. Why would they on this?
It is sheer naivete to think you can deal with these devils and get any concessions at all that are meaningful. Never gonna happen.The only outcome is we get screwed they win. He had to have know that. So why enter into an agreement with them knowing we get screwed?
Makes no sense.
Obvious answer corruption on a grand scale.
This is the kind of thing that MUST happen on a more regular basis.
Candidates words need to be compared to their actions, relentlessly and mercilessly.
Sad, and most likely true. Makes me feel sick.
The only other answer is ideology and that keeps coming up lame. Although, Rubio’s numbers have not gone down.The corruption rumors have been around for years,difficult to prove.
Actually, any pathway to citizenship is more than amnesty. Amnesty would merely let folks off from a penalty or a crime they committed — entering the U.S. illegally, using fake documents to obtain employment, whatever — giving a path to citizenship, unless it’s identical to that available to people outside the country applying in the normal procedure, actually rewards them for committing the crime, not merely lets them off.
"Reform" of immigration is actually a huge part of the "transformation" of our country from free to at best authoritarian. Rubio is so clueless, so lacking in principle, so dense that he jumped in bed with Schumer, Reid, McCain and Grahamnesty. This is a sign of horrible judgment. Judgment of character, mis-judgment of policy and its effects, judgment of the political consequences and just poor, crumby, lousy judgment. One is left to conclude that Rubio is a tool of the lowest order. He is toast. He has lost all credibility. He's still trying to dance around it. But it's over.
Ted Cruz is the last man standing.
Immigration policy should be based on only what an immigrant can do for this country not what we can do for them.
There a two billion people around the world that would like to come here WTH! We can't take even a fraction of them. We need to orient immigration policy only around what immigrants can do for us. Plus we need immigrants who want to be part of the US and its way of life not transporting their way of life here!! That's all BS.
I find it difficult to believe that Rubio could be that clueless,naive. Unfortunately, corruption makes more sense.
LAY DOWN WITH DOGS....GET UP WITH THE ?
He was right in 2010, then the progressive neo-marxists showed Rubio his PRISM file and he flipped like a pancake faster than Justice Roberts did when he saw his file, and decided to sell out and preserve himself.
There, fixed it.
Your first sentence says it all. Rubio “looked” straight up.
At first glance, he said all the right things; got in good with the right people. But if you took a good look at the things he had done in the FL legislature, you would see that tough illegal immigration bills never made it to the floor of the Florida House which was his doing as FL House Speaker. You heard him disagree with Jan Brewer and the Arizona immigration law. All the signs were right there for anyone who wanted to see them. It is just so hard for people to imagine that they have been duped. They will come up with almost any reason that what is in front of their faces can’t possibly be the truth.
After all, who are you going to believe, the clean, well spoken, amnesty loving hispanic or your lying eyes?
As you know the Cubans were actually true refugees having escaped the castro brothers. One more reason why Rubio was so appealing.
But, it seems the minute he got in the Senate and started hanging with the worst of the rinos, linda, mcqueeg and the rest he was history.He's history now.
The republicans have held both chambers of the Florida Legislature and the governorship for a long time. Marco Rubio was Speaker. While he was speaker, conservative members of the legislature wanted to bring up bills concerning illegal immigration. Rubio never allowed that to happen under his watch.
It seems Rubio realized that if a bill was never brought to the floor of the House, he would never have to vote on it. He would never have to definitively show his pro-illegal side.
I’m not sure what you are referring to when you say FL is a bit different. We may not be Texas, California, New Mexico or Arizona with regards to immigration, but that is because most of the hispanics — Cubans, Puerto Ricans and immigrants, like the Haitians, already have legal status. Even though the RINOs in govt. may not have cared about the immigration situation, conservatives wanted to put laws in place protecting Florida in case things got worse, just as AL and GA, our neighbors to the north, have done. Rubio prevented that.
Once he was in the senate, it seems he felt he could do like McCain and Lindsey Graham and the rest of the RINOs in the Senate. That is do whatever you want for four and a half years; then just before election year, become a hard line conservative. He hasn’t really changed a bit. He always has been pro-amnesty. His dislike of the law in Arizona was proof of that. Getting elected into the senate allowed him to be less concerned about showing his liberal tendencies.
If illegal aliens do not have to return to their home country then they are getting amnesty.
You gotta remember there are light years of difference between the border jumpers of Mexico and Cuban refugees that have been tortured and killed under Castro.
Either way its Ted Cruz for me unless someone else comes on the scene.The party needs leadership lets face it.
I just ran across this don’t know if there is anything to it. The purported black mail of his brother-in-law is years old. Cant imagine that’s it of course if Univision suddenly started in on Rubio could be bad in espanol land.I really don’t know.
Here is an excerpt from the link:
“Last October, the Miami Herald broke news that Univision executive Isaac Lee threatened to make public a story about the arrest of Rubio’s brother-in-law 24 years ago that is, unless, in an offer he couldn’t refuse, Rubio agreed to go on Univision’s Jorge Ramos show, presumably to be savaged by the TV host, known as a loud advocate of open borders.
Univision’s owner, Egyptian-born billionaire, Haim Saban is a huge supporter of the Democrat Party and gave at least $1 million to Obama’s super PACS during this past election season.”
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