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Candidate Rubio: ‘Earned Path to Citizenship is Basically Code for Amnesty’
Town Hall ^ | June 22, 2013 | Leah Barkoukis

Posted on 06/22/2013 6:44:21 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

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To: Starboard
Believe me it(third party) looks appealing and all of us here have considered it more than once.

Problem I see is a few years up the road we start trying to expand the base and let others in and soon we are infested with rinos-in-the-making.

I still see the only answer as an all out war on RINOISM and holding back money from the rnc and only fund conservative candidates individually. IT can be done and we can do it.

21 posted on 06/22/2013 7:55:56 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: AFret.
He's a disappointment because he ran on a full conservative agenda, was once against amnesty, he has the ability to speak well, has made some great entrepreneurial anti-socialist speeches, and now he's turned.

Sorry, that's disappointing to me, not his skin color.

22 posted on 06/22/2013 8:02:41 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

He’s a disappointment because he ran on a full conservative agenda, was once against amnesty, he has the ability to speak well, has made some great entrepreneurial anti-socialist speeches, and now he’s turned.
*******
Symptoms of a contagion within the Republican Party. Turners and cavers is what they all eventually become.


23 posted on 06/22/2013 8:20:21 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Lakeshark
What gets me is that Rubio looked straight up IMHO until he all of a sudden got mixed up with the "gang of eight."(Gang of four sellouts)

When you analyze it and I have a lot, one of the only things that makes sense is corruption.

What if Rubio got an offer he could not refuse,maybe told to take a lot of money or be banished to serfdom for the rest of your natural life. Not saying that actually happened but it sure looks logical at this point.

What else can reverse what he should already know? He should know as much as we do here. That you can not trust any Democrat that makes any deal with us in this regime. They have an agenda.They never obey any law they don't like and have never negotiated with us at all on anything. Why would they on this?

It is sheer naivete to think you can deal with these devils and get any concessions at all that are meaningful. Never gonna happen.The only outcome is we get screwed they win. He had to have know that. So why enter into an agreement with them knowing we get screwed?

Makes no sense.

Obvious answer corruption on a grand scale.

24 posted on 06/22/2013 8:21:27 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: EXCH54FE

This is the kind of thing that MUST happen on a more regular basis.
Candidates words need to be compared to their actions, relentlessly and mercilessly.


25 posted on 06/22/2013 8:25:06 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: rodguy911

Sad, and most likely true. Makes me feel sick.


26 posted on 06/22/2013 8:32:58 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

The only other answer is ideology and that keeps coming up lame. Although, Rubio’s numbers have not gone down.The corruption rumors have been around for years,difficult to prove.


27 posted on 06/22/2013 8:46:51 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: EXCH54FE

Actually, any pathway to citizenship is more than amnesty. Amnesty would merely let folks off from a penalty or a crime they committed — entering the U.S. illegally, using fake documents to obtain employment, whatever — giving a path to citizenship, unless it’s identical to that available to people outside the country applying in the normal procedure, actually rewards them for committing the crime, not merely lets them off.


28 posted on 06/22/2013 8:51:16 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: EXCH54FE
Among the many things Rubio doesn't understand, is the the base of the Party has been targeted, smeared and character assassinated for decades now. The base has been betrayed so many times of their elected "representatives" from both President Bushes to Justice Roberts (on ObamaCare) to almost everyone. The base sees the condition of our country as so dire, that there is no more wiggle room. You betray us now and you are toast.

"Reform" of immigration is actually a huge part of the "transformation" of our country from free to at best authoritarian. Rubio is so clueless, so lacking in principle, so dense that he jumped in bed with Schumer, Reid, McCain and Grahamnesty. This is a sign of horrible judgment. Judgment of character, mis-judgment of policy and its effects, judgment of the political consequences and just poor, crumby, lousy judgment. One is left to conclude that Rubio is a tool of the lowest order. He is toast. He has lost all credibility. He's still trying to dance around it. But it's over.

Ted Cruz is the last man standing.

29 posted on 06/22/2013 8:57:14 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (The Stupid Party, they've earned it.)
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To: The_Reader_David
If the RNC had half a brain they would get back to the basics of what US immigration policy should be all about. We are one of the few countries in the world that does not secure it borders-- sheer insanity.

Immigration policy should be based on only what an immigrant can do for this country not what we can do for them.

There a two billion people around the world that would like to come here WTH! We can't take even a fraction of them. We need to orient immigration policy only around what immigrants can do for us. Plus we need immigrants who want to be part of the US and its way of life not transporting their way of life here!! That's all BS.

30 posted on 06/22/2013 9:08:59 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

I find it difficult to believe that Rubio could be that clueless,naive. Unfortunately, corruption makes more sense.


31 posted on 06/22/2013 9:12:24 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

LAY DOWN WITH DOGS....GET UP WITH THE ?


32 posted on 06/22/2013 9:18:00 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: EXCH54FE

He was right in 2010, then the progressive neo-marxists showed Rubio his PRISM file and he flipped like a pancake faster than Justice Roberts did when he saw his file, and decided to sell out and preserve himself.

There, fixed it.


33 posted on 06/22/2013 3:30:03 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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34 posted on 06/22/2013 3:54:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: rodguy911

Your first sentence says it all. Rubio “looked” straight up.

At first glance, he said all the right things; got in good with the right people. But if you took a good look at the things he had done in the FL legislature, you would see that tough illegal immigration bills never made it to the floor of the Florida House which was his doing as FL House Speaker. You heard him disagree with Jan Brewer and the Arizona immigration law. All the signs were right there for anyone who wanted to see them. It is just so hard for people to imagine that they have been duped. They will come up with almost any reason that what is in front of their faces can’t possibly be the truth.

After all, who are you going to believe, the clean, well spoken, amnesty loving hispanic or your lying eyes?


35 posted on 06/22/2013 4:19:55 PM PDT by Waryone (Trust the Lord not your own understanding. Acknowledge Him. He will direct your path.)
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To: Waryone
Actually Florida is a bit different. The central, north and now much of the West coast does have a bit of a problem with many illegals taking up most of the const. jobs locaals used to get. But South Florida has many Cubans.

As you know the Cubans were actually true refugees having escaped the castro brothers. One more reason why Rubio was so appealing.

But, it seems the minute he got in the Senate and started hanging with the worst of the rinos, linda, mcqueeg and the rest he was history.He's history now.

36 posted on 06/22/2013 4:48:09 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

The republicans have held both chambers of the Florida Legislature and the governorship for a long time. Marco Rubio was Speaker. While he was speaker, conservative members of the legislature wanted to bring up bills concerning illegal immigration. Rubio never allowed that to happen under his watch.

It seems Rubio realized that if a bill was never brought to the floor of the House, he would never have to vote on it. He would never have to definitively show his pro-illegal side.

I’m not sure what you are referring to when you say FL is a bit different. We may not be Texas, California, New Mexico or Arizona with regards to immigration, but that is because most of the hispanics — Cubans, Puerto Ricans and immigrants, like the Haitians, already have legal status. Even though the RINOs in govt. may not have cared about the immigration situation, conservatives wanted to put laws in place protecting Florida in case things got worse, just as AL and GA, our neighbors to the north, have done. Rubio prevented that.

Once he was in the senate, it seems he felt he could do like McCain and Lindsey Graham and the rest of the RINOs in the Senate. That is do whatever you want for four and a half years; then just before election year, become a hard line conservative. He hasn’t really changed a bit. He always has been pro-amnesty. His dislike of the law in Arizona was proof of that. Getting elected into the senate allowed him to be less concerned about showing his liberal tendencies.


37 posted on 06/22/2013 6:04:18 PM PDT by Waryone (Trust the Lord not your own understanding. Acknowledge Him. He will direct your path.)
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To: EXCH54FE

If illegal aliens do not have to return to their home country then they are getting amnesty.


38 posted on 06/22/2013 6:05:41 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Waryone
You may be right. IMHO,having met the guy having heard him speak some time ago and having followed him somewhat I thought he was golden. That is until he joined the gang of 8. After that straight down hill, IMHO.

You gotta remember there are light years of difference between the border jumpers of Mexico and Cuban refugees that have been tortured and killed under Castro.

Either way its Ted Cruz for me unless someone else comes on the scene.The party needs leadership lets face it.

39 posted on 06/22/2013 6:39:09 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Waryone

http://www.alipac.us/f9/sen-marco-rubio-being-blackmailed-into-supporting-amnesty-marco-rubio-blackmail-281026/

I just ran across this don’t know if there is anything to it. The purported black mail of his brother-in-law is years old. Cant imagine that’s it of course if Univision suddenly started in on Rubio could be bad in espanol land.I really don’t know.
Here is an excerpt from the link:

“Last October, the Miami Herald broke news that Univision executive Isaac Lee threatened to make public a story about the arrest of Rubio’s brother-in-law 24 years ago — that is, unless, in an offer he couldn’t refuse, Rubio agreed to go on Univision’s Jorge Ramos show, presumably to be savaged by the TV host, known as a loud advocate of open borders.

Univision’s owner, Egyptian-born billionaire, Haim Saban is a huge supporter of the Democrat Party and gave at least $1 million to Obama’s super PACS during this past election season.”


40 posted on 06/23/2013 4:28:58 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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