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Bill could reduce illegal immigration 25 percent
Yahoo! News ^ | 6/19/13 | David Espo and Erica Werner | Associated Press

Posted on 06/19/2013 3:22:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (AP) — Supporters of far-reaching immigration legislation rejected a challenge Wednesday from Senate conservatives demanding evidence that the nation's borders are secure before millions living in the United States unlawfully can gain legal status.

The vote came as lawmakers on both sides of the issue digested a startling Congressional Budget Office forecast that the bill would fail to prevent a steady increase in illegal residents in the future, even though it would grant legal status to millions already in the country without the necessary papers.

"Illegality will not be stopped, but it will only be reduced by 25 percent," said Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., referring to the prediction by the non-partisan CBO.

Only a day earlier, the CBO had cheered supporters of the bill with an estimate that it would help the economy and reduce deficits in each of the next two decades.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderwars; cbo; corruption; illegal; immigration; reduce
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Viva la Republic!! not sure whose tho. ;-?
1 posted on 06/19/2013 3:22:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

And they’ll cool our warming planet too!!!


2 posted on 06/19/2013 3:27:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: NormsRevenge

could?...but then again it could double


3 posted on 06/19/2013 3:29:42 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: NormsRevenge

“Illegality will not be stopped, but it will only be reduced by 25 percent,”...

This is absolute Bolshevik! The ONLY thing that will reduce ILLEGAL Immigration is closing the border tighter than a sphincter at the Proctologists office and stop rewarding illegal behavior.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 3:30:53 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: NormsRevenge

What BS! This bill, if passed, will only encourage more illegal immigration, especially when said form of immigration will no longer be considered illegal.


5 posted on 06/19/2013 3:31:21 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: NormsRevenge

They have no intention of securing the border and stopping the flow of illegals. Not now. Not in 5 years. Not in 10 years.

If they wanted to secure the border and stop the flow of illegals, they could do that now by enforcing existing laws.

It is another hoodwinking of the American people — by Rubio, by Ryan, by McCain, by Graham, by Schumer and all those voting for this bill.


6 posted on 06/19/2013 3:31:22 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: NormsRevenge

7 posted on 06/19/2013 3:32:39 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: cripplecreek
did you look at the photo at the link? Hundreds a illegal criminals outside the House Judiciary Office.

It will turn your stomach. It looks like a bunch of anti-American gimme gimme parasites.

If we had a true Republic, they would be put in chains, thrown on un-airconditioned buses and thrown over the boarder.

If this evil bill passes every politician that voted for it should be rounded up and ... you know the rest...

8 posted on 06/19/2013 3:34:53 PM PDT by sand88
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To: sand88

CAPITOL HILL POLICE BLOCK TEA PARTY ACTIVISTS FROM IMMIGRATION RALLY
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/19/capitol-hill-police-block-tea-party-activists-from-immigration-rally
Meanwhile illegals assembled and protested on the PRIVATE property of the Governor of Kansas because they don’t like his stance against illegal aliens (no arrests there)
http://www.ldjackson.net/immigration-reform-mob-protest-kris-kobach/


9 posted on 06/19/2013 3:36:29 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TomGuy

This is a problem of the right and the left.

There is a segment of land-owning farmers, who are looking for more low-wage illegals.

Those land-owning farmers are in bed with the illegal supporters, in keeping illegals flooding into our nation.

That is the problem. Both sides are on this ride.


10 posted on 06/19/2013 3:37:57 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: NormsRevenge

Let’s do the math.

Last time we saw this fandango they promised it was only for a million illegals. Three million took advantage of their largesse.

So, this time they promise it’s only for “eleven million.” Which means almost certainly that thirty-three million will sign up. Most honest observers know that there at least that many here now.

Which will attract ten times as many in preparation for the next sell out of our national sovereignty and the rule of law.

So, the next wave will be more than the current population of the United States.

Take it to the bank.

This is national suicide.


11 posted on 06/19/2013 3:39:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I read a bunch of responses at the link. It is 100% against this evil bill. I could not find one person thinking it is good.

Our evil leaders of both parties purposely destroying our Republic.

I am so disgusted with these evil scummy politicians in government...

I cannot truly write what I want to happen to D.C., but know this, we are betraying our Founders wishes if something does dramatic does not happen soon.

12 posted on 06/19/2013 3:44:20 PM PDT by sand88
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To: TomGuy

If they stop illegals and secure the border the goal of a North American Union will not be achieved. Bush knew this and that’s why he did absolutely nothing. Obama knows it and that’s why he’s done nothing.


13 posted on 06/19/2013 3:45:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Mastador1
This is absolute Bolshevik! The ONLY thing that will reduce ILLEGAL Immigration is closing the border tighter than a sphincter at the Proctologists office and stop rewarding illegal behavior.

You can't make the border air-tight. But you CAN greatly reduce the attractiveness of coming into the US, via penalties against those who hire illegals.

Make the penalty something moderate, like $200 per illegal found. Make it NOT a defense to claim the illegal showed good-looking fake ID. Make local cops able to enforce it AND collect the fine. Real quick, businesses who hire illegals will find themselves raided over and over again, with INS competing against local cops and state troopers, until there are no more illegals.

14 posted on 06/19/2013 3:46:17 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: NormsRevenge

25 percent of what?


15 posted on 06/19/2013 3:47:41 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: EternalVigilance
This is national suicide.

What you type is not hyperbole.

Our evil leaders are literally destroying this Republic. It will be a third world sewer when they are done.

I truly wish we have governors with a Warrior mindset -- It is time for States to secede and kill the Federal Leviathan.

The States along the border should secede and gather up their citizens and secure the border with deadly force - post haste.

Our Republic CANNOT survive the passage of this bill. It will be checkmate -- the third world scum will take over.

16 posted on 06/19/2013 3:48:23 PM PDT by sand88
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To: NormsRevenge

And Obamacare was supposed to reduce everyone’s insurance bills, too.

And all the other amnesties we’ve done since 1986 were supposed to be the “last time” we were going to do an amnesty.

I just do not believe these a$$holes and I am sad the liberal a$$holes have taken over so much of the republican party. they are liberals, acting like liberals, using the same crappy arguments as liberals, trying to sling the same crap as liberals, because THEY ARE LIBERALS.


17 posted on 06/19/2013 3:49:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: sand88

Obama, third world scum, has taken over. Every major us city is liberal run and is third world and somewhere along the process of self destruction. They have taken over there. They exist to grab resources from those they don’t govern - state redistribution of income and federal redistribution of income.


18 posted on 06/19/2013 3:51:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Obviously you don’t live in Taxifornia where the liberals refuse to follow, let alone enforce the law. So lets build a big fence, use seismic and aural sensors to detect tunnels and armed U.S. MILITARY to secure our nation from foreign invaders. I betcha that will get the border pretty damn tight! A hell of lot tighter than a whopping 25%! And as for cost, what jobs are all our soldiers coming home to?


19 posted on 06/19/2013 3:53:17 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: cripplecreek

We need environmental review of the immigration reform bill. An EIR estimating the number of people changing from Third World levels of consumption to US levels. The number of people legalized, and the number of family members they will eventually bring in. What increase in greenhouse gases will result?


20 posted on 06/19/2013 3:55:27 PM PDT by omega4412
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