Posted on 06/17/2013 9:04:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
On Saturday, the South China Morning Post reported that he showed them documents identifying the IP addresses of Chinese computers that had been hacked by NSA. Yesterday the Guardian revealed that he’d showed them NSA documents alleging that the agency accessed Medvedev’s communications at the G20 summit four years ago. Coincidentally, this year’s G8 summit opens today in Northern Ireland. The new scoop is obviously timed to maximize America’s embarrassment.
Are we done pretending that this guy is interested only, or even primarily, in exposing violations of Americans’ civil liberties? He’s not opposed to the U.S. government spying on its citizens. He’s opposed to the U.S. government spying, period, even if the information gleaned from foreign espionage ultimately benefits Americans. The patriot/traitor calculus is starting to shift.
The document, leaked by the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and seen by the Guardian, shows the agency believed it might have discovered “a change in the way Russian leadership signals have been normally transmitted”…
The report says: “This is an analysis of signal activity in support of President Dmitry Medvedev’s visit to London. The report details a change in the way Russian leadership signals have been normally transmitted. The signal activity was found to be emanating from the Russian embassy in London and the communications are believed to be in support of the Russian president.”
The NSA interception of the Russian leadership at G20 came hours after Obama and Medvedev had met for the first time. Relations between the two leaders had been smoothed in the runup to the summit with a series of phone calls and letters, with both men wanting to establish a trusting relationship to discuss the ongoing banking crisis and nuclear disarmament.
Did the Russians know that we found out that they were transmitting signals in a different way? They do now. For good measure, the Guardian’s latest update this morning is that British spies also monitored foreign diplomats’ communications at the 2009 G20. So now the host country for this week’s G8 is embarrassed too, and of course it’ll be reluctant to share information on foreign intelligence with NSA for fear of further humiliating leaks. Maybe this explains why he leaked the PRISM stuff and the FISA order targeting Verizon first — he wanted to make a splash by exposing domestic surveillance so that he’d have more of a spotlight for the subsequent Wikileaks-ish revelations he was planning on U.S. foreign spying. If you believe Eric Bolling, even Snowden’s own father is urging him not to leak anymore.
Via Mediaite, here’s the White House enlisting two of its most trusted surrogates for pushback. Exit question: If Snowden managed to find info on NSA’s servers about what the Brits were doing at the G20, did he also manage to find information that would embarrass America’s enemies? If so, is he planning to leak that, or is this one of those very familiar scenarios (again, a la Wikileaks) where top priority is embarrassing western governments, not oppressive governments?
>>> If you believe Eric Bolling, even Snowdens own father is urging him not to leak anymore.
Eric Bolling is a statist, a typical Conservative statist. The hero should probably listen to his daddy, though.
This is not news either....All governments know this ....and they all do it.
It’s like we’re all old prueds saying...”Oh my! Governments are spying on each other..Oh dear! This is just awful!”
What Snowden is doing, by revealing this, is paying back the UK for telling their airlines NOT to let him board. At the same time the Guardian is getting the ratings they’re seeking.
Snowden is playing a deadly game and it’s going to bite him hard in the end...as it should.
Snowden should have shut his mouth after his first leak about the Nanny State collecting and storing data on American citizens.
His subsequent comments cloud the issue of government oversight of protected communicatsions and they give proponents of the Nanny State some wiggle room to defend their intrusive unconstitutional programs.
I dont care that we intercepted Russia’s communications- job well done, NSA- we are SUPPOSED to learn as much as possible about other countries
It is the spying on our own citizens for no reason that concerns me.
Why is this news?
He has now crossed the line from whistleblower to a traitor by giving details of operations as opposed to merely saying hey we are spying on Americans.
I honestly don’t care what are his intentions, if he helps bring down the muslim despot Obama I am for him.
Exactly. I finally feel some hope.
“At this point, what does it matter? [emphasis]”
“When we have LEAKS, what does it matter whether its just plain old effem Americans, Brits, Chinese or Russians. We have an effing LEAK here! And it makes us look bad because we can’t corral that traitorous little shit.
Frankly, my concern over all this died years ago. It died with hippies pissing on the flag, it died with this nation’s media telling everybody and his brother that a “bl@w job” isn’t an impeachable offense. It died completely with the election of the first non-American Islamic President. It died when a vacuous gold digger named Sandra Fluke told Congress how she needed $3000 worth of “Jimmy Hats” each year for her “health” and that all the rest of us needs to pay for it.
As far as I’m concerned right now, if you stick up for the government, Obama’s government, then you are part of the problem, too.
Because if anyone actually believes the government will simply sit on all that information forever and not eventually use it in increasingly coercive and devious ways against innocent Americans then they are criminally naive.
We can presume that likewise the Russians have hacked Obama’s Blackberry.
Now THAT should be interesting!
Obama uses a Blackberry and not an iPhone?
Blackberry is a Canadian company!!
Yep imagine alot of text to Reggie Love and Lord knows what else he uploaded..maybe a pic of himself ewwww
OK, where are the Free Republic supporters of Snowden to explain to us how the NSA intercepting a foreign president’s communications violates US law and we need to have it leaked?
Or can we all now finally admit that, as much as we dislike Obama, Snowden is a traitor who is actively harming this country?
Soetoro and Weiner probably exchange a lot of pics and sexts.
That’s hardly news or leaking of top secrets. It’s a sure bet at any meeting of country leaders there are countless snoops and eavesdroppers every foot within 5 miles. Always has been. Always will be.
What makes you think that this wasn't the original intent of the leaks and the leaker?
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