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To: SWAMPSNIPER

He sure acted like he didn’t know the words “probable cause” were actually in the 4th Amendment. That is stunning. This man has served in many positions that directly dealt with/deal with the Constitution and yet seems clueless.


5 posted on 06/17/2013 2:04:58 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8

Too many of them consider the oath they take to be just a silly ceremony.


6 posted on 06/17/2013 2:11:44 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Tammy8
He sure acted like he didn’t know the words “probable cause” were actually in the 4th Amendment. That is stunning.

He acted like he didn't know the words, because he didn'tknow the words. What an utter, ignorant fool this General is. An asinine, moronic buffoon. A skulking poltroon. All the interviewer had to do was stop the interview right then and there, and go to the trouble of actually quoting the Fourth Amendment.

God save us from such imbeciles as this supposed expert.

7 posted on 06/17/2013 2:12:49 AM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: Tammy8
He was an outstanding Air Force officer

I just dont get it

I wondered where he went after NSA, this reads he is back inside the government working with these people

Apparently he went over to the dark side at some point, maybe even before he became head of NSA

SO maybe this massive govt intrusion into individual liberty did begin under “Bush and Cheney” but the intent of gathering and use of individual information under o’bama sure isn't the same

10 posted on 06/17/2013 3:23:52 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Tammy8
Typical bureaucratic appointee. He's there to give the agency a veneer of respectability, but he doesn't even know the 4th Amendment.

Too many FReepers think the US military is going to stand with us. Hayden's the perfect example. He knows where his bread is buttered and the US Constitution doesn't pay his mortgage.

15 posted on 06/17/2013 3:53:37 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Tammy8; P-Marlowe

Even if he were to come back and say that their interpretation of “probable cause” is “reasonably believe”, then they’d still be wrong. I susayspect, however, that is what they’ve determined.

Probable is a mathematical statement that says a thing is highly likely to be true.

Cause refers, iirc, to the discussion of causation, that A is a result of B and is a highly likely direct result.

We are talking about a highly probably direct causation of evidence and not someone’s “belief” at all. And reasonable is a lower standard than probable.


26 posted on 06/17/2013 4:38:08 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Tammy8

Typical government worker (Private or military) doing what they are TOLD to do rather than actually knowing real laws and constitutional rights.

I never cite anything in a debate or disclosure unless I can back myself up with page and paragraph of what I am stating.

I would bet that no more than 10% of any government worker could do that....much more...military leaders.


34 posted on 06/17/2013 5:00:49 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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Another AF General with a plexiglass stomach so he can see where he’s going. Damn this gets old. The standard for being a General Officer used to be that you were a commander of a line unit, somewhere...fighter squadron, airlift wing, etc. You get the picture. Guess how many line units this idiot has commanded. None. He’s been nothing but a staff pute his whole military career.


45 posted on 06/17/2013 5:41:41 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Tammy8

Man if a general ever deserved to be removed from his post, this one does.


79 posted on 06/17/2013 9:20:30 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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