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NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants
cnet ^ | June 15, 2013 4:39 PM PDT | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 06/15/2013 4:52:01 PM PDT by tje

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To: Nifster

Tapped Enough Already?


101 posted on 06/15/2013 7:53:22 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void

Heck it seems I have been tapped and followed for a long long time now


102 posted on 06/15/2013 7:55:38 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: tje

Massive tax revolt. It’s the only way out this side of the unthinkable.


103 posted on 06/15/2013 7:56:37 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: Nifster

What’s your sign-up date?


104 posted on 06/15/2013 7:57:28 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: tje
Also:

That authorization appears to extend to e-mail and text messages too.

105 posted on 06/15/2013 7:58:23 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: tje

The Freepers who want Snowden hung from the nearest tree going to demand Nadler be hung also for revealing this?


106 posted on 06/15/2013 7:59:23 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Standing Wolf

If you can’t figure out how to make the checks and balances work with this government, What makes you think you can figure it out with a new government?


107 posted on 06/15/2013 8:00:01 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Standing Wolf

If you can’t figure out how to make the checks and balances work with this government, What makes you think you can figure it out with a new government?


108 posted on 06/15/2013 8:00:01 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: tje

bump to the top!!!!


109 posted on 06/15/2013 8:02:25 PM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: tje

Anyone surprised by this? Anyone at all? No?


110 posted on 06/15/2013 8:04:57 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: dayglored
Shut these fascist bastards down!!

That's not how you spell "shoot..."

111 posted on 06/15/2013 8:05:01 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: tje

Didn ‘t snowmen say that this was just the tip of the iceberg????


112 posted on 06/15/2013 8:09:10 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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To: theBuckwheat

“How close are we to the point where the risks of a Constitutional Convention outweigh the risks posed by the trajectory the federal government is presently on.”

“A Convention is the only way to solve all these problems.”

Your statement makes no sense whatsoever, we already have a constitution, what we need to the will to enforce it.

Jefferson summed it up quite nicely, “A people unwilling to use EXTREME violent force to obtain or preserve their liberty deserve the tyrants that rule them”

They gave us the 2nd amendment to enforce the US Constitution, Jefferson also said, “When the people fear the government you have tyranny, when the government fears the people you have liberty.”


113 posted on 06/15/2013 8:10:06 PM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: laplata

< I think anyone who initiated anything would not live long, or at least, be threatened with death. They can make noises but don’t dare cross the line. >

Wow. That’s quite a statement. So you’re saying that ANYONE in public life who says ANYTHING is risking his or her life by speaking out and defending the Constitution? That almost sounds threatening, considering it’s coming from someone who’s been here about 3 months. Maybe you’re just one of those “We’re-All-Gonna-Die” people. They seem to permeate FR here lately with the “Why-Try?-We’re-Screwed” mentality. Did you know that negativity can be contagious? Emotional contagion, they call it. I wonder what Alinsky called it? I really should look that up.

< Sites like FR, conservative talk radio and much more will probably be gone within a few years. >

Right.


114 posted on 06/15/2013 8:15:05 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: tje

So how long before Nadler claims he misunderstood what he heard or that what he said was taken out of context?


115 posted on 06/15/2013 8:15:42 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Nita Nupress

They can make noises but don’t dare cross the line.


116 posted on 06/15/2013 8:18:49 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Henry Hnyellar

You think Nadler heard the NSA witnesses wrong? He’s saying this is what the committee was told by the NSA people. What would be his motive to lie about this? If he’s pro-Obama he’s admitting this against his own interest, which automatically raises the question of why he would lie in order to hurt his own interests.


117 posted on 06/15/2013 8:25:58 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: tje

So do they tape the Sunday news shows on Friday? I assume the info is too late, or am I wrong?


118 posted on 06/15/2013 8:27:25 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Nita Nupress

Saul Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals

The rules
1.“Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”
2.“Never go outside the expertise of your people.”
3.“Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.”
4.“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
5.“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
6.“A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”
7.“A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”
8.“Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”
9.“The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”
10.”The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.”
11.“If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.”
12.“The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”
13.“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”


119 posted on 06/15/2013 8:30:08 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I wondered about that. I thought the phone calls would be digital data. William Binney talked about this in regards to emails (see http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/13854-nsa-whistleblower-%E2%80%9Cevery-american-is-under-surveillance%E2%80%9D ) and Dennis Kucinich also talked about this (see http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/3284978-the-real-scandal-surrounding-the-petraeus-resignation ). But I wondered if this also included digital files of phone conversations.


120 posted on 06/15/2013 8:30:52 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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