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1 posted on 06/15/2013 9:56:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Rubio caves for sure.


2 posted on 06/15/2013 9:59:48 AM PDT by AdaGray
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Rubio is waffling all over this issue. It’s obvious he wants to run for president but wants to be on all sides of the immigration debate. Ah geez, just what we need another freaking moderate, RINO neocon. Sorry senator, but don’t think you’re presidential material.


3 posted on 06/15/2013 10:00:25 AM PDT by dowcaet
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I can't speak for others but there are no conditions whatsoever under which I would vote for Rubio for national office.

None. Zero.

4 posted on 06/15/2013 10:00:39 AM PDT by skeeter
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What is in this deal for the particular Republicans pushing it, and not even trying to get, or wanting, border security as part of the deal? The new “citizens” will all be ‘rat voters. Even if they try hard, the Republicans can never out-pander the ‘rats. The ‘rats have cornered the market, for decades, on pandering with the taxpayers’ money for “free” gibmes for their voting blocs. What is in this for the Gang of Eight and the Congressional Republicans who support this? Not votes, they’re never going to get these votes.


8 posted on 06/15/2013 10:09:24 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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The 'gang of 8' can't even agree.....The 15 years waiting period for illegals to apply for US Citizenship is a joke.

No legislature can bind a future legislature. If the Democrats take the House of Representatives in the 2014 midterm elections and maintain control of the Senate, then the House and the Senate can vote to reduce the waiting period for say, from 15 years to one week or one month or one year or whatever.

Obama signs it all in time for the 2016 national election.

12 posted on 06/15/2013 10:13:17 AM PDT by yoe
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The kindest description I can muster for Rubio:

Rubio=Empty Suit.

I am sure other FReepers can do better.


13 posted on 06/15/2013 10:13:22 AM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting twowards Mecca five times daily).)
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I continue to urge that we should try to rescue Rubio from the "gang" life! [See my suggestion of how to address his flirtation with leftwing immigration theories: Whither American Conservatism.]

Frankly, it is disgusting to even think of any even moderate Conservative working with Senator Chuck Schumer, who first "distinguished" himself by his efforts to justify Janet Reno's butchering people outside of Waco, when he was in the House. I have never been able to forget the rodent like look in his eyes as he tried to argue for murderous Federal suppression of armed religious mavericks. Whereas McCain is just senile, Schumer represents all that is really vile in Washington. Rubio is capable of doing far better than his gang buddies.

William Flax

14 posted on 06/15/2013 10:14:19 AM PDT by Ohioan
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I mentioned it before. I think the enforcement part is a DIVERSION. Rubio will get some words that will make the country think there is tough enforcement...and it will be tougher than before, when there was nothing.

But it’s keeping the debate from where it should REALLY BE. Which is whether Americans are happy transitioning to a two-language (if not more) country, with ethnic enclaves, kind of like Syria and other Middle East countries.

The point is that the Dems could give us a full lock-down of the border, but they know this bill will let another 20 to 30 million in LEGALLY, in the name of family re-unification. That is their BIG PRIZE and if they have to give up on keeping the border open to trick Republicans into supporting it, they will.


15 posted on 06/15/2013 10:14:36 AM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The gang needs to be voted into retirement!!!


16 posted on 06/15/2013 10:15:16 AM PDT by dalereed
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Pointless analysis by Hugh Hewitt’s protege. Polls, shmolls. Rubio’s DOA for being naive and lending his name to those fraudulent radio ads. Is kabuki theatre the new buzz word? It’s another thousand freaking page bill. That’s all one needs to know.


17 posted on 06/15/2013 10:17:14 AM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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Clearly, The Gang of Eight is getting its marching orders from the Third World hellholes and organized latino pressure groups inside the US. Conspiculously silent is the tax-funded Congressional Hispanic Caucus, Voto Latino, the numerous tax-funded Hispanic Federations, the tax-funded blood thirsty La Raza, as well as countless "latino legal rights" groups.

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"Citizenship" is the latino word for "pressure group." Citizenship and welfare benefits are a small part of amnesty---get ready for zillions in foreign aid and other federal handouts.

LYING IN WAIT FOR OUR TAX DOLLARS--- THESE IMPOVERISHED COUNTRIES CURRENTLY HAVE ORGANIZED PRESSURE GROUPS INSIDE THE US (here illegally): Argentina, Belize, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica Republic, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico (stateside)l Salvador, Spain, Uruguay, Venezuela.

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AS ONE EXAMPLE: Dominican Republic travel brochures reveal the Third World hellhole provides no safety nets for its impoverished populations. The DR depends on the billion dollars per year their illegal population collect in the US and send back home.

DOMINICAN REPUBLIC STRANGLEHOLD ON US POLITICS--- It is an unconscionable travesty against representative democracy---to have the corrupt Dominican Republic meddling in our affairs---cooking the books to help Sen Booby Menendez (D-NJ) stay in power. Menendez is on-record using US govt authority to grease the skids for a billion dollar Dominican port-deal (that can facilitate drug cargo to the US).

Menendez also hired an illegal latino who was a registered sex offender to work in his DC office.

HOW DO YOU SAY QUID PRO QUO IN SPANISH? Clearly, a deal was made. IF (BIG IF) the Dominican Republic saves Menendez's degenerate a** (and prevents the dreaded Christie appointment), Obama will write the foreign aid check w/ plenty of zeros.

BOTTOM LINE Menendez has TWO governments protecting him---- Americans have not even one government looking after our interests.

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LA RAZA STUDIES TOSSED OUT OF ARIZONA SCHOOLS La Raza Studies does not even try to sugar-coat its anti-America agenda and its bloodthirsty plans to kill off Americans: Raza Studies textbook “Occupied America,” by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a violent and blood-curdling speech given by university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is, if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him,” (pg. 323).

The following is taken directly from La Raza's Occupied America (pg. 167): “.......execute all white males over age 16,” (AKA the Plan of San Diego).

America-hating Raza Studies teach (1) violence, (2) undermining US ntl security, and, (3) the need for Mexico to "re-take seven states in the Southwest...in order to make the SW a Chicano nation. "

SCHOOL BOARD NUT CASES Adelita Grijalva is the woman on the Arizona school board pimping La Raza indoctrination programs in Tuscon schools. Adelita is all up in arms about Raza Studies getting tossed via the AZ state legislature's action...she is the daughter of Raul Grijalva (D-AZ-7) who was just narrowly re-elected to our US Congress. Cong Raul Grijalva is one of Mexico’s most productive and loyal Fifth Column in the US Congress....aiding and abetting the latino criminal underworld, colluding to take back the SW, and loot and pillage the US treasury.

Raul and friend.

19 posted on 06/15/2013 10:19:32 AM PDT by Liz
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‘Quisling Eight’ Members Angry with Rubio Over Border Security Amendments?

There fixed it


20 posted on 06/15/2013 10:20:12 AM PDT by eyeamok
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Ooh, an angry Gang of 8holes...


24 posted on 06/15/2013 10:27:55 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Inside the rat brain:

We win. If we don't win, we're only one step away from a friendly judge who'll make sure we do.

29 posted on 06/15/2013 10:34:25 AM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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Lets all gather here and pretend we have any say in this matter at all. Triggers shmiggers they don't enforce current law and never will.

We have these kabuki dances every two to four years where they put on a show not unlike WWE Wrestling where the villain varies according to the location.

The nearly stolen election by Al Gore taught us nothing, and we just shrugged at the defeat of Romney by arguably the worst president ever and said Oh Well.

Thankfully my expiration date is closer than most here and I won't have to see the total demise of the Republic, but we will have to explain to God one day why we let this happen to our children.

Conservatives have no horse in this race at all, judging by Rubio's approval ratings the country will drink the Kool-Aid, when asked to by a slick fast talking carnival carny.

35 posted on 06/15/2013 10:54:17 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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They are upset that Rubio hasn’t completely morphed into Chuck Schumer. Almost but not quite.


40 posted on 06/15/2013 11:53:48 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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'Gang of Eight' Members Angry....

Wacko Birds McCain & Grahamnasty.

41 posted on 06/15/2013 12:00:24 PM PDT by Red Steel
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When I learned that nobama’s Google buddie was picking up the tab for those ads, I knew this thing was not in our better interest.

I think Rubio hurt himself by going along with these subterfuges promoted around Rush’s airtime, with inference it was backed by conservatives.


42 posted on 06/15/2013 12:22:59 PM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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Rubio and the rest proved where they stand on enforcement when they voted to table Cornyn’s amendment. I could be wrong about this, but I’m pretty sure the deed’s already been done.

If Rubio’s having trouble, it’s of his own making. I have no sympathy for a politician says one thing to a group (that it likes) and a different thing in a different language to another group (which it also likes). I don’t know how he thought it wouldn’t be discovered.


48 posted on 06/15/2013 12:54:16 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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I do not know a single republican that personally likes rubio... he is universally hated amongst the conservatives that I know.


49 posted on 06/15/2013 12:57:42 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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