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To: DannyTN; elpadre; newheart; X-spurt; silverleaf; Rio; bert; teppe; nitzy; MarkRegal05
10 ... But again, you have two choices, you can fight to fix it, or you can run. There is no guarantee that any new organization is not going to get infiltrated as well.

As other Freepers have pointed out ... this vote obviates the SCOTUS 2000 BSA v. Dale case which barely found in BSA's favor, 5-4. Open homosexual adults in BSA is now inevitable. GLAAD, Human Rights Campaign, Scouts for Equality, and Change.org will see to it. Corporate American owns the BSA National Executive Board and the Fortune 500 CEOs are in favor of "inclusion."

10/27/1989 - British conservative political commentator and journalist, John O'Sullivan (who currently resides in Decatur, AL), wrote the article below which was published in National Review.

O’Sullivan’s First Law
An eternal truth.

“Robert Michels — as any reader of James Burnham's finest book, The Machiavellians, knows was the author of the Iron Law of Oligarchy. This states that in any organization the permanent officials will gradually obtain such influence that its day-to-day program will increasingly reflect their interests rather than its own stated philosophy. …

<… O'Sullivan's First Law: All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing. I cite as supporting evidence the ACLU, the Ford Foundation, and the Episcopal Church. The reason is, of course, that people who staff such bodies tend to be the sort who don't like private profit, business, making money, the current organization of society, and, by extension, the Western world. At which point Michels's Iron Law of Oligarchy takes over — and the rest follows.

The homosexualists have applied Saul Alinksy's tactics since the Stonewall Riots in 1969. They are just following Gramsci's "long march through the institutions" by which they now control academia/philanthropic foundations/media/public schools/government. Just this week the Caterpillar Foundation scratched BSA off its eligible recipient list because BSA still discriminates against open adult homosexuals. BSA was the last major holdout against the communists.

The founder of OnMyHonor, John Stemberger, doesn't strike me as a coward, dummy, or quitter. I think he sees the reality of the situation, and that is why he and a host of others are moving in the direction to create a new Scouting association for conservative/traditionalists in the USA.

The BSA demographics are irrefutable. It reached its membership zenith in 1973. It has been a continuous 40 year decline since then with a net loss of 56% in youth troop membership. Despite all the efforts BSA has expended in reaching out to racial minorities over the decades, they have little to show for it in traditional membership.

The U.S. Census Bureau projections are grim ...

2013 – U.S. population is 63% white, 15% Hispanic, and 13% black. (a 24.8% decrease of whites over 48 years since the passage of the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act)

2013 - >45% of students in K-12 are minorities.

2013 – Democrats in Congress are attempting to reform U.S. immigration law to provide a path to citizenship for a majority of the ~11-30 million illegal alien Hispanics believed to be in the U.S. If this happens, it will dramatically alter the USCB projections of the racial make-up of the U.S. population. Democrats are also working for a policy change that covers illegal alien homosexuals in the U.S. to provide them a path to full citizenship.  2013 – 40% of live births in the U.S. were out of wedlock. White rate = 33%, Hispanic rate = 50%, Black rate = 72%

2018 - U.S. Census Bureau projects the number of non-white children in grades K-12 will be >50%.

81 posted on 06/15/2013 1:01:41 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

If your contentions are on the money, Scouting will likely cease to exist in any form.

I believe in 1910 it was started as Christian based but non-political. In the 1910 environment it was possible. In 2013, the environment is too convoluted for anything similar to BSA 1910 to gain much foothold, not because there are not enough who could participate, because there are not enough to tell their kid to turn off the vid-game.

A new Scouting could take a generation or longer to re-start. That is my reasoning to fight for Scouting NOW, not in some theoretical future.

If this big corporation won’t let go even when loss of members, loss of backing confronts them, then it will have to die to be re-born.

This thing is like cancer treatment, the cure can be as bad as the disease.


92 posted on 06/15/2013 4:18:55 PM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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