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1 posted on 06/14/2013 12:55:13 PM PDT by servo1969
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If that was how it would actually work, I could go for it. The REAL problem is not the number of illegal aliens in the country right now, it’s the continuing influx. If we could actually cut the influx pretty much off for 20 years, those here would assimilate reasonably well.

But of course that won’t actually happen. We’ll effectively amnesty those already here, then continue acquiring new ones. And the pressure will begin to build for our third amnesty.

Also we should have a “national conversation” about cutting down on legal immigration for an adjustment period of 20 years or so.

But we won’t. Opposing legal immigration or even its expansion is a third rail in politics.


30 posted on 06/14/2013 1:22:55 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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Rubio is a desperate liar. He’s tossing out whatever lies to whatever groups to see what can stick, what stupid people are willing to believe.

Every reason he’s listed for this are lies. How anyone can believe him, is crazy. You have to ignore the fact they are idiotic and just simply rather want to believe him due to irrational emotions.


36 posted on 06/14/2013 1:29:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: servo1969

We should also release all felons from prison so they can get jobs and pay for the prisons. What the hell have we turned into when the best we can do is elect people like this to govern us?


40 posted on 06/14/2013 1:34:24 PM PDT by anoldafvet
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42 posted on 06/14/2013 1:35:50 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: servo1969
We have to stop this monstrous Amnesty bill. They get us to focus on Rubio, Snowden etc when we should be focused on calling Congress to stop the immigration bill, calling congress to prosecute Obama and the IRS for rigging the election(Obama ordering the IRS to rig the election.

We need to first figure out what to do.

Where is anyone even saying what is going on , much less what to do?

Plus the only time we have to think about Rubio is when he tries to run in 2016. Of course THEN we should not support this moron. but what Republican has a chance in 2016 with the IRS shutting down opposition to the democrats and all the things the democrat party controls:

The enemy of the American people is the democrat party. The democrat party controls

1. the news media
2. hollwywood
3. the presidency
4. The senate
5. the gov bureaucracies
5. the unions
7. the universities
8. the schools
9. soros , Lewis,zuckerberg, msny other billionaires are democrats.
10. Obama the main tyrant is a democrat
11. silicon valley, Google etc. are democrats
12. Pelosi, REid, fienstein, Shumer, Durbin , Lois lerner r democrats
13 . the rest of the media
14. IRS , EPA, DHS, HHS, TSA, FBI, etc.
15. liberals control the supreme Court( they approved Obamacare)
15 . Democrats control all the political money .Soros, tides foundation,gov grants, move on.org,

Democrat party controls all this and more but the media and many others say that everything is the Republicans fault even though r’s have only a few votes majority in the House and that's it

Democrats want to makes slaves of all Americans, turn us into cattle with less rights than a cow or farm chicken for them to manipulate.

46 posted on 06/14/2013 1:39:06 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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Legalize illegals? I think that is what we use to call an irreversible process in physics. OK, maybe just a garden variety oxymoron.


47 posted on 06/14/2013 1:43:45 PM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: servo1969
why doesn't Rubio just do a Pelosi and say we have to pass this bill so we can then change it to really give the dems what they want which is full blown amnesty for every illegal with all the welfare perks
48 posted on 06/14/2013 1:46:27 PM PDT by drypowder
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"We need to register them as soon as possible, not just to keep the problem from getting worse, but we’re going to require them to pay a fine, and that’s the money that we are going to use to pay for the border security. If we don’t get that fine money from the people that have violated our immigration laws, then the American taxpayer is going to have to pay for border security."

The amnestied illegal aliens would pay no fine, they don't have enough dinero. They would get money from us taxpayers, right from the get go.

To the many fine folks who think that Mister Rubio would make a good presidential candidate, look closely at this.

Mister Rubio has no clue on (a) how to sum up a problem, (b) how to arrive at a workable solution, (c) how to negotiate from a position of strength, (d) how to withstand (gasp) criticism from the media and (e) having, maintaining, and standing on core principles.

Mister Rubio must be primaried-out in 2016.

50 posted on 06/14/2013 1:49:42 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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Marco Rubio: Biggest. Trojan. Horse. Dem. EVER.


52 posted on 06/14/2013 1:51:34 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: servo1969

Kind of like let’s give the fox a room in the hen house so he can help build a stronger, more secure one.


60 posted on 06/14/2013 2:13:35 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (I love my country; I don't like its government)
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62 posted on 06/14/2013 2:15:10 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Lancey Howard; Norm Lenhart

Maybe Rush read this morning’s FR threads...


63 posted on 06/14/2013 2:16:05 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Has Rush unglued his lips from Rubio’s backside yet?


67 posted on 06/14/2013 2:23:42 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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"This immigration thing is gonna taint him (Rubio)"

Too late, Rush, the taint on this former saint ain't "coming", it's already all over him like paint.

Leni

69 posted on 06/14/2013 2:27:15 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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Rush seems to be holding fire, perhaps thinking that Rubio will come to his senses on this. Unfortunately, not going to happen. Rush needs to go full assault now.


70 posted on 06/14/2013 2:31:38 PM PDT by Rokurota
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Find it strange when the excuse is being given that while the government knows whats going on in 300 million citizens lives but because the illegals are not citizens the US doesn’t know who they are or where they’re comming from, so we must make them citizens..

In that May 3rd speech Obama gave before the Mexican Anthropological Museum in which he blamed America for the violence in Mexico I believe he went even futhur. There’s a inference but never referenced by name to the Gasden purchase and border settlements US made with Mexico where Obama hinted he seems to side with the Mexican claims. Would those in attendence share that view is a question that should be asked, because I believe they would,.he does.

The Mexicans have been getting most favorable treatment above the rest of our neighbors both north and south. They’re permitted to cross our borders and enter illegally and are allowed access to rights of citizenship (with the exception of voting which if the democrat party regains control over the House will happen) other nationals entering this country don’t get.

Also by allowing Mexicans to do this any quota ration for immigration from other south and central American countrys are taken up by Mexicans while that country is laying claim to a large chunk of our sovereign territory.

We are already seeing the result of this in certain areas claimed by the Mexicans. Their national flag (standard) gets displayed over ours. Where there is a controlling number of Mexican nationals (illegals). It’s displayed over certain institutions particularly schools accompanied by riots and disturbances. Blacks are threatend by Mexicans in certain sections of citys in those areas. We’re courting trouble by not placing a value on our sovereignty and our citizenship.

Worse yet if a US citizen goes into Mexico never mind illegaly but legally. They’ll get 2nd class treatment. Land ownership in title is prohibited period. And there are a slew of regulations they must comply with. Which doesn’t apply to a citizen of Mexico.

By not insisting on reciprocity particularly on those who have entered this country illegally we’re offering no incentive for assimilation and we’re not easing the burden for our fellow citizens who for what ever reason decided to live in Mexico.


72 posted on 06/14/2013 2:44:53 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: servo1969

The stupid, it burns.


75 posted on 06/14/2013 2:59:35 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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Illegals are a net drain, a major net drain on our society. That would not change if they were granted amnesty.

Just what we need - 10 million or 20 million or 40 million more freeloaders. We should be exporting the illegals and the democrats, not embracing them.


82 posted on 06/14/2013 4:25:03 PM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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"RUSH: I'll tell you why it pains me, why it is really, really painful, this stuff. Because I really like Senator Rubio. I remember Senator Rubio campaigning against Crist. I know who Rubio is."

No, Rush, clearly you STILL don't know who he is, even though the rest of us figured it out a long time ago.

"Painful?" Why is it painful? Is he still that far up Rubio's behind, even after everything that's happened? Unbelievable.

88 posted on 06/14/2013 5:20:47 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: servo1969

For anyone reading and wondering about this support/doesn’t support issue....ponder this bit of fiction.

Normie and Rush/Sean/Levin were sitting round the burned out shell of a car as behind them, the last of the echoes of gunfire rang out in the distance.

Following the disastrous immigration reform bill, the US economy crashed under the burden of over 50 million now legals flooding over the border.

“Why did this happen? It wasn’t supposed to be this way,” said the Constitutional scholar who should have known better.

“How did we not see this?” asked the NYC Fox host who ignored his audience?

“Why wasn’t this nipped in the bud when the GOP had the chance?” Queried the Radio talk show legend that made so many excuses.

Because you put the needs of your friend over those of your country, replied the only one left.


106 posted on 06/14/2013 7:00:41 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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