This is a complicated issue... NOT made easier when you post nonsense like that.
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bull monkey. Try to understand something...anything about the way things really work. otherwise you’re just another silly republican suicide.
There are already three or four levels of laws that govern the border not least of which is reagan’s 1986 bill. That one’s still in force and its not being obeyed. It never was enforced. It never was obeyed. Except for the amnesty part. The border security part was just ignored.
The federal government just like Mexico’s or Canada’s federal government — has the responsibility to enforce the border. But they’re not doing it.
Why would another stinking border law cause them to change their behavior. The president enforces only the laws that please him.
it does not please him to control the border.
get it?
the only thing that would happen with the new law is that the democrats would pocket the amnesty (legalization) provisions and ignore the rest.
that’s it.
they have no incentive to do otherwise. rather they have every incentive to disobey the law as they are doing now. and there’s no one to stop them.
You sound like an intelligent man. why is this so difficult for you to understand.
I mean presumably you’re at the very least a republican.
Of course, if you’re a democrat — hey you’re within inches of getting ultimate inter-generational control over the federal bureaucracy. all you have to do is keep blowing smoke at silly supercilious pubbies.
of course giving the dems the keys to white house for a generation or two is a sure way to kill the republic in about the way Hugo Chavez and his heirs are doing so in Venezuela.
.. they have no incentive to do otherwise
Look... I GET that border enforcement has NOT happened. Obama has done LESS than nothing.. he's actually spending our money in Mexico ENCOURAGING illegal immigration. But, let's be real... W didn't do much about it either. NO President, or administration has done much about it, ever.
IMO, securing the border and/or controlling immigration is a two step process:
1) Physical security.... as best we can... with fences, drones, electronic surveillance. There are limits to this. It's a LONG border... and, there's one on the North too... and, miles and miles of shoreline. It's not possible to PHYSICALLY STOP EVERYONE from entering this country illegally. But, we can make it a LOT harder for them.... then,
2) Crack down on employers who hire illegals. That's a REAL problem right now... How do you crack down on an employer when they have no REAL, dependable way of verifying legal status? If the government can't tell who's legal and who isn't, why should we expect a business to do it?
There are provisions (and money) in the current bill to improve BOTH of these aspects. Money for beefed up physical security...and, a vastly improved E-verify system. Those are GOOD things. There's NO WAY to make any improvement is immigration control without them.
So, what incentive would anyone have to actually DO anything? Well, that's the final piece of this massive bill they're trying to work out: NO CITIZENSHIP until the border AND enforcement parts are in place.
It may well be, that the Dems will not accept this kind of link. If they don't? Then, screw it! No deal... Nothing will happen. Maybe, that's what they want... so they can use the issue to get MORE Dems elected and then do it they way they want. You think we'd like THAT result? I don't.
I'm slightly offended that you would equate my "intelligence" with being "Republican"... I am a CONSERVATIVE, who almost always (not always) votes Republican because they are usually the best of two evils.
I also follow politics pretty closely.... even at the "nuts and bolts" level... and, am interested in demographics. We've got a long-term problem that isn't going to be solved with this bill... but, would likely be WORSENED if nothing is done to improve our immigration control.
I STILL don't know how this bill will play out. I'm becoming more convinced, daily, that NO ONE really knows. It looks more and more like Obama is involved heavily in it... and, that means only one thing: The Dems aren't really interested in improving anything... other than their own vote counts.
I suppose that's always been the case.. and, it was always a pipe dream to think Congress could do ANYTHING worthwhile... but, I'm an eternal optimist. CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE in our immigration system. SOME of the things in the current bill seem good to me. The problem is, HOW to structure it in a way to make sure the RIGHT things are actually done?
If no one EVER believes ANYTHING can be done? Then, they might as well ALL go home, and let's shut the government down forever....
Oh, what a happy day that would be! :-)