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School Threatens to Ruin Valedictorian’s Naval Academy Appt.
radio.foxnews.com ^ | June 13, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 06/13/2013 5:39:28 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

A Texas high school principal threatened to sabotage a valedictorian’s appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy after the student delivered a speech that referenced God and the U.S. Constitution, Fox News has learned.

Hiram Sasser, director of litigation with the Liberty Institute, said Joshua High School principal Mick Cochran threatened to write a letter to the U.S. Naval Academy disparaging the character of Remington Reimer. “It was intimidating having my high school principal threaten my future because I wanted to stand up for the Constitution and acknowledge my faith and not simply read a government approved speech, the teenager said. Sasser is now representing the teenager and is calling for the Joshua Independent School District to issue a public statement exonerating him of any wrongdoing. He said the speech was edited and reviewed by four different school officials – including an officer in the JROTC. Sasser said the censorship violated federal and state laws.

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To: ilovesarah2012

The idiot principal needs to know we can write letters,too.

Lots of them.

This young man is precisely the kind of man I want as a Naval Officer.


61 posted on 06/13/2013 7:16:10 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: PeteB570

What lie? It is his speech to give. If he changes his mind on what to say, he has that right.


62 posted on 06/13/2013 7:20:04 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Someone send Hank Hill on over to that high school.


63 posted on 06/13/2013 7:22:48 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I think the that school head reports to the school board who, in turn, have to answer to the school tax payers. Seems like some time for district voters to make their own opinions known.


64 posted on 06/13/2013 7:24:53 AM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: PeteB570
...but I did point out the one thing all of you missed - he lied.

Maybe, maybe not. Did he specifically state that he would only deliver the "approved" speech, or did he simply submit it for approval as required without comment or promise to "stick to the script"?

65 posted on 06/13/2013 7:24:56 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: paterfamilias

Honor Concept??? I went to VMI, and the Honor CODE was very simple:

A Cadet will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do.

Pretty simple. Here’s a concept, stick with what works, a clear Honor Code.


66 posted on 06/13/2013 7:28:25 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: paterfamilias
If his speech included strong support of the US Constitution, yes.

And if it did not but urged the adoption of Sharia and denounced all infidels in the audience? How about a Planned Parenthood rant urging other students to have all the sex they wanted as long as they used birth control, but not to worry if they didn't because they could get an abortion? I'm sure parents and siblings in the audience would have gotten a real kick out of that. I can see faulting the administrators for bad judgment about what is appropriate for a high school graduation but since they didn't know what was going to be said, how can they be faulted for following a reasonable rule?

I had argued in a previous post the rule seemed reasonable and we can only speculate whether or not the speech he actually gave would have been approved or not. The speaker never gave the administrators that opportunity but chose to deceive them and then make issue about a rule he knew was in place. Since the speaker went off script, how could anyone know what he was going to say?

If anyone can show me proof that his pro-constitution speech was pre-censored, then I will accept the premise the school acted inappropriately.

67 posted on 06/13/2013 7:30:32 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Publius

We need a return to Early America!


68 posted on 06/13/2013 7:32:05 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: ShasheMac
If you’re going to correct someone’s spelling, I “beliebe” you’d better be pretty sure of your own first. ;)

A very common typo, what with v and b adjacent on the keyboard. Preview is your friend!

69 posted on 06/13/2013 7:32:13 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

“Yep, it’s obvious the kid has no integrity. Pull his appointment to Annapolis immediately. Pull his HS graduation, too.

The principal is very clearly in the right here.”

All over a high school speech? Really? A little dramatic don’t you think?


70 posted on 06/13/2013 7:45:50 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: SpirituTuo

“Honor Concept??? I went to VMI, and the Honor CODE was very simple:

A Cadet will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do.

Pretty simple. Here’s a concept, stick with what works, a clear Honor Code.”

USNA and USCGA have similar Honor Concepts.

When you get down to the nitty gritty, USNA Mids and USCGA Cadets have the option of counselling a wrongdoer to admit his wrongdoing, and only after they refuse, they are bound then to report said person.

I have been told that this concept has is basis in the sea services’ tradition for the skipper to be judge, jury, and executioner when at sea, which is not the pracitce of the land-based services.

The Honor Concept at USNA goes back to the mid- late-1800’s, but has been revised over the years.


71 posted on 06/13/2013 7:58:44 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: ilovesarah2012

This is very clearly about the Principal’s authority and not whether the Valedictorian student is a good candidate for the Naval Academy. The Principal feels he has to punish the (former) student in some way or he will have no future authority to pre-approve graduation speeches. They better course might be to trust that your Valedictorian, by virtue of how hard they have worked to achieve that status, will give an appropriate speech for the occasion.


72 posted on 06/13/2013 8:02:55 AM PDT by Dan Cooper
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To: ilovesarah2012

If that action is accomplished, the principal must be offed


73 posted on 06/13/2013 8:04:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Organize the people who live and pay taxes to the school district to force the removal of the principal. Assure he will never be employed by another school, public or private anywhere in the USA. He might do well in Cuba, tho.


74 posted on 06/13/2013 8:05:43 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: paterfamilias
Honor Concept of the United States Naval Academy

No lyin', cheatin', or stealin'.

Bullsh*tting, getting the gauge, and reconning are AOK, though.

75 posted on 06/13/2013 8:07:07 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: fella

Mick???, how many Texans would name their kid that?


76 posted on 06/13/2013 8:12:47 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey NSA Goon watching FR... Suck this - > |=====>)
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To: SpirituTuo
A Cadet will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do.

Pretty simple. Here’s a concept, stick with what works, a clear Honor Code.

Essentially, the Boat School's is the exact same thing, without the final clause. Omitting that gives a mid the option to counsel rather than simply force him to make a report or face an honor violation himself. Cuts down on the rat/narc element quite a bit.

77 posted on 06/13/2013 8:13:43 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: PeteB570

I see that. He did lie. He may have seen the lie to be in service of a larger cause, but that’s what Muzzies do, not us.

If he doesn’t change his ways he’ll wash out first year.


78 posted on 06/13/2013 8:17:39 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I think you will find that when you add too much subjectivity, the meaning is lost. Additionally, IIRC, cheating on homework wasn’t considered a dismissible offense. I could be wrong.

If a person is going to lie, cheat, or steal in small things, they are more likely to do the same in large things.


79 posted on 06/13/2013 8:34:09 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: SpirituTuo
I think you will find that when you add too much subjectivity, the meaning is lost.

Nah. It works pretty well.

80 posted on 06/13/2013 8:38:47 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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