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To: LibFreeUSA

Say what you want about Boner but he is right; Snowden is a traitor.

The government is no different from you and me swearing an oath to protect this country against all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC.

Think about it especially since we have such a porous border - how do you uncover domestic enemies?

By exposing NSA’s listening techniques, Snowden should rot in Hell.


39 posted on 06/11/2013 5:56:58 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist

He is not a traitor, he is a hero, our people are supposed to keep government straight and that is what he has risked everything to do. we are in charge of the government, not the other way around.


50 posted on 06/11/2013 6:01:16 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: New Jersey Realist

What’s really pathetic in this is that regardless of his motives, whatever they truly are, the man did America a true service. And yet, many of the very people (conservatives) who bemoaned the fact that no one would blow the whistle and expose this admin from within, now condemn him as a chicom spy. for doing EXACTLY what they hoped for.


51 posted on 06/11/2013 6:01:33 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: New Jersey Realist

There is no realism in the People’s Republic of New Jersey except SS tactics.


54 posted on 06/11/2013 6:02:46 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: New Jersey Realist

I don’t know what Snowden did except confirm to the Nation what I have known. Of course, when I say it then I’m a Conspiracy Theorist, an Alex Jones nutjob.

So, let’s hide the ball and demonize the messenger. The real story is the FACT that our Constitution is being trampled on. That’s it and that’s all.

Have you heard any mention from our esteemed Congress critters about these programs being dismantled?


65 posted on 06/11/2013 6:10:24 AM PDT by saleman
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To: New Jersey Realist

Hey i think you’re posting on the wrong site. What enemies are they protecting us from? They blow chance after chance. If your head was any further in the sand it would be sticking out of the sidewalk in Bejing.


106 posted on 06/11/2013 6:28:32 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: New Jersey Realist

He is certainly not a traitor. A traitor betrays his country to an enemy. This man betrayed this countries enemies to it’s citizenry. There is a difference.

There is a very clear definition of treason in article three of the constitution. This mans actions do not, in any way, meet that definition.

Our government has assumed powers and priveleges that are not among its enumerated powers under the constitution. The prevailing popular opinion, or the fear of the masses; does not justify all of these politicians disregarding their sacred oaths and it doesn’t condemn this mans patriotism.

John Boehner is likely a traitor. The entire damned organization of our federal government is very likely staffed with traitors of one stripe or another, but exposing the unconstitutional activities they have undertaken is not traitorous.


118 posted on 06/11/2013 6:32:58 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: New Jersey Realist
By exposing NSA’s listening techniques

What was there to expose? That the NSA knows absolutely everything about everything we do?

Snowden comprimised nothing and no one, but alerted us all to the danger.

176 posted on 06/11/2013 7:05:32 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: New Jersey Realist
Think about it especially since we have such a porous border - how do you uncover domestic enemies?

I expect the Constitution be followed by our government ALWAYS. What part of the Fourth Amendment did you miss?

Your support of this unconstitutional Bravo Sierra puts YOU in the "all enemies, foreign and domestic" camp.

204 posted on 06/11/2013 7:27:25 AM PDT by EricT. (Another Muslim terrorist. Who saw that coming?)
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To: New Jersey Realist; yldstrk; Norm Lenhart; saleman; Wiggin
NSA far, far overreached the bounds of limited and enumerated Constitutional powers, and massively violated the rights and liberties of U.S. citizens. Snowden alerted us to the extent of this overreach and violation, and ought to be thanked by liberty-lovers everywhere.

Only a simpleton could not see that the NSA is using hostile surveillance to rein in, not America's enemies, but all of America's citizens.

As for our enemies foreign and domestic, the NSA couldn't even catch and stop that cute, curly-haired pothead Djokhar Tsarnaev and his buff brother Tamerlan, when Russia was jumping up and down, shouting their names and pointing at them.

Neither will the NSA, on principle, profile Muslims, or Arabs, or immigrants whether legal or illegal.

Therefore the limited surveillance they should be doing to the jihad-infested demographic subgroups, they are instead applying to all law-abiding citizens, with particular emphasis on white, conservative, limited-government, Catholic and Evangelical, patriotic, prolife, and constitutionalist individuals and organizations.

No problem, I guess?

What do they have to do, knock down your door?

310 posted on 06/11/2013 1:01:06 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately." - Benjamin Branklin)
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To: New Jersey Realist

>>from you and me swearing an oath to protect this country
>>against all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC.

Just to clarify. The oath doesn’t say it’s to ‘protect the country’ - it says this:

“defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic”

Without the constitution, there is no freedom, no law and no country. The 4th amendment is one of the core parts of the constitution and trumps all other laws, regulations, etc.

Full oath below for reference.

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.[1]


358 posted on 06/12/2013 10:17:57 AM PDT by LibertyLA (fighting libtards and other giant government enablers!)
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