Posted on 06/09/2013 7:05:03 PM PDT by neverdem
Which is exactly why the laws need to change that allows studies done with marijuana.
The histrionics over this plant should have died a long time ago.
Actually, alcohol does have some limited medicinal effects, with a small amount actually cleaning the liver a bit.
However, the “side effects” are often extreme, for example influencing most of the 100 or so neurochemicals in the brain, a huge number of drug interactions, and by being an addictive substance.
It makes a great antiseptic for active bacteria, if not spores, however. Far less harsh than carbolic acid (phenol), which was the preferred antiseptic before that, and more effective than Hexachlorophene (like PhisoHex), to which bacteria eventually develop resistance.
So alcohol stands up to its nickname, “The neutral spirit”.
oh please the on stop shops where you can get your diagnosis , card, and smoke are all over California (particularly southern California).
Who do you know that wants to be ‘out of pain’ and hence uses pot to accomplish that? What type of pain do they have? So often people claiming to want to be out of pain really just want to be out. Pot is not a pain killer it is a neurological over load device. I could give morphine or heroin and have the same effect ( or if in Florida I guess oxy is the fad).
The truth is that a certain amount of pain is pretty normal for the human existence. There are ways to deal with it that are effective and do not require the use of pot. IF you need marinol that is still available by prescription and comes in many forms. Your claim that marinol is non effective in many people is not born out by scientific studies.
Just admit it you like smokiing pot and will find any reason to do so
it is something else....getting ‘high’ is stupid and usually puts other people at risk....even if the ‘high’ person doesn’t think so
what a silly question.....I am not in favor of people purposely getting drunk either
you obviously have lost part of your brain in the process of ‘sparking’ one up
since I do not use alcohol I do not see your point.
the difference between pot and prescribed pharmaceuticals is one of measurable dosage and efficacy. I know you think you have presented a wonderful argument but you have not. What you have done is point out that too many people use drugs for the wrong reasons. Modern America has people in it that want to be pain free (somatized if you will) and taken care of.
Enjoy your state of dependence
the suggestion for the use of pot did not come from docs but the childs father.... their is no indication the docs have said anything good about this
and what does that have to do with this story????
in California where so many of these medical pot cases seem to come from (though this one doesn’t) anyone can walk into a pot shop. Most are full service shops....they have a doc who will write you an Rx for your card, you pick up your card, and then you get your weed
My complaint about the use of pot for ‘medicinal’ purposes is that a) there is NO way to gage the dosage one gets from whatever weed is consumed; b) there are NO scientific studies which prove efficacy of pot (as opposed to the active ingredient of THC) in any medical usage; and 3) there are no specific criteria by which pot is prescribed (i.e. no standard set of symptoms) instead what you have are people getting cards for everything from anxiety to generalized pain to allergies ....it is all over the board
First, I do not smoke pot. I do not want to be high, I want to be pain free (or pain reduced free)
Second, I said some people have tried the pill form and it is not effective for everyone.
If I could take the pill and have a reduction in pain I would, however I do not know a single doctor who knows anything about it.
I live in southern California (Santa Barbara) and there is not a single dispensary here, they were ALL raided by the feds.
I do have a certificate but again smoking pot is worthless for me because I do NOT want to be high.
When I went to get the certificate, I had a complete physical, with a really long questionnaire asking why I thought pot would be of benefit, it was not a given.
Yes, I understand that pain is normal is everyday life, I am talking about pain that interferes with even the most minimal daily activities or sleep.
So beleive me or not, pot, MJ, ganga whatever you call it is effective for pain control for many people, I do not have a problem with that.
It would be nice to have a different delivery system and the same benefit.
It wasn’t even an issue here until about 1930s or so.
People have been using MJ for thousands of years for a variety of things.
Forgot to tell yo what pain.
I was injured (shattered my ankle, badly bruised my hip, blew out my knee) at work and on the way home from the first surgery as a result of that we were rear ended (broke my clavicle, kinked my gut, and ripped the muscles off my shoulder).
So I had five major repair surgery’s in 2.5 years plus all the PT for years beyond that. What happened was I developed injury induced arthritis in my ankle, knee, hip and shoulder...as I get older the arthritis gets worse.
If I could take a pill to reduce the pain even if MJ based I would.
That's part of the problem. As the federal laws now stand in the USA, randomized, double blind studies with sufficiently large samples can't get federal funding.
Federal law categorizes marijuana as a Schedule I controlled substance, in the same category as heroin, LSD and methaqualone - substances deemed to have no acceptable medical use and a high potential for abuse. This bars any possibility of distributing Charlotte's Web beyond state lines, makes it nearly impossible for it to be tested in the type of large-scale clinical research that brings traditional prescription drugs to market, and even hampers a thorough understanding of how medical marijuana reduces seizures."It's kind of sad, but right now, when it comes to clinical trials and FDA-approved studies in the U.S., the government is not in a place where it's going to allow that to happen," Stanley says.
Who'a making the argument that opioid analgesics are not needed because heroin, diacetyl morphine, IIRC, has been deemed worse than useless?
and what does that have to do with this story????
What this family is doing is illegal under a federal law that's based on the Wickard Commerce Clause. Now do you agree or disagree that this should be a state, not fedgov concern?
I find it odd that no doc that you know is aware of marionol. It comes in suppositories and liquid forms as well as pills. Perhaps you need some one who specializes in pain management. You are not that far from some top notch pain centers.
Other ways of treating pain include icing (they have some great machines that circulate cold water around the area of concern), message, acupuncture, and bio feed back relaxation. These things are all very effective and can be used in connection with more moderate m=pain managers.
I do not know the specifics of your particular case but it sounds odd that if all of the dispensaries have been shut down in SB then I presume you have to travel to get your pot. How can you be sure the dosage is what you need? Or do you just use until you ‘don’t feel’.
Your experience getting a card is very different that most folks...
get in touch with a good pain management doc....
this article is about a medical condition...my comments were directed to that.
I have no desire to turn that into the loud yelling and screaming about one thinks is appropriate for a government to regulate. You have become belligerent simply because I won’t play. Perhaps you need another toke
Straightforward questions about the Constitution usually cause fits for Drug Warriors. You avoid them for the same reason a horse avoids pissing on an electric fence.
I have the certificate but have not purchased the MJ.
The docs (ortho and PCP) say ice, heat and ibuprofen.
My endocrinologist thinks pain management in the US sucks, maybe she will know, I only see her twice a year, I’ll ask and bring info.
Thanks for the additional info.
I was kinda hoping that mom was blowing her shotguns to dose her up.
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