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To: usconservative

There are 28 different types of assault on the UK statute books. Whilst nobody, least of all me, would disagree that the UK is more violent than it was, the fact is that classification of crime in the UK definately skews the figures and makes the UK look more violent than it is.

Otherwise, you have to believe that the UK has gone from a nation famous for being polite and virtually crime free to a nation so violent, it is more violent than the US, a nation notorious for city crime, gang violence and which has 75% of all the world serial killers living in it, a nation who has 15000 people murdered by guns every year.

Do you, or any American, honestly think Britain is a far more violent nation than the US. Really?. More violent than it was 50 or even 25 yrs ago, but worse than the US, with all your violence?. Really?.

I am 43 this year. I have been the victim of crime ONCE in my 25 yrs as an adult living in the UK. The last 25 yrs where crime in the UK has risen.

You also forget one huge fact: that the rise in UK crime comes from a level of violence that was almost non-existant. Britain was until recently a nation where famously violence (murders, rapes) were incredibly low, and the famous British bobby didnt need anything except his trusty truncheon. America was famous for being very violent. Britain was famous for being the complete opposite.


45 posted on 06/09/2013 12:31:13 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman
I am 43 this year. I have been the victim of crime ONCE in my 25 yrs as an adult living in the UK. The last 25 yrs where crime in the UK has risen.

That depends on where you live and where you work. Do you ride public transportation through bad areas? I live in the rural areas now but spent a few years close to the worst section of a city. Walked and rode through high crime areas. I am 50 now and more careful, but have not been victimized by any type of crime against me or my property and I carry thousands of dollars in cash and cash equivalents at times.

49 posted on 06/09/2013 12:37:39 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: the scotsman
Do you, or any American, honestly think Britain is a far more violent nation than the US. Really?

YES. The fact is there are far more violent crimes committed in the UK per 100,000 people than in the U.S.

You've claimed on this forum in the past that there are less murders in the UK than the U.S. That's false too. There are more MURDERS committed in the U.K. per 100,000 people than there are in the U.S. Those murders in the UK may not happen by gun because of the UK's stupid gun ban, so they happen by other means, by knife being #1. So why doesn't the UK ban knives next?

Then you claim there are more gun murders in the US than there are in the UK. Again, FALSE. Looking at the numbers of gun related murders in the UK per 100,000 people, the UK ranks as the 67th most violent country in the world according to the United Nations. The United States is #127.

Even the UN understands the difference between murder, suicide and self defense and has proven that the actual murder rate in the US is much lower than that of the UK.

What you post is garbage, not even worthy of being called propaganda.

67 posted on 06/09/2013 5:49:24 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: the scotsman
I am 43 this year. I have been the victim of crime ONCE in my 25 yrs as an adult living in the UK. The last 25 yrs where crime in the UK has risen.

Right, so your personal experience translates into what? Your personal experience is IRRELEVANT. Facts speak for themselves.

68 posted on 06/09/2013 5:50:59 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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