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1 posted on 06/09/2013 8:34:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I have a Verizon cell phone, I’d go along with this.


2 posted on 06/09/2013 8:37:05 AM PDT by dirtboy
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You will never be sure they’re not doing ongoing data collection. Regardless of what the supreme court decides.

Most people I talk to think the Patriot Act wasn’t the beggining of this.

All the Patriot Act did was make their ongoing data collection activities legal.

They’ve probably got dossiers on all of us since the 1950’s. At least. The development of digital technology just made it easier for them to do it.

I’d like to know what dossiers they have on minor children. And why.


3 posted on 06/09/2013 8:37:37 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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If we get 10 million Americans saying we don’t want our phone records looked at then maybe someone will wake up and something will change in Washington,” he said.

That will be good for the unemployment rate. Think how many IRS agents they'll hire to audit 10 million Americans joining this class-action lawsuit.

4 posted on 06/09/2013 8:38:21 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Because the supreme court has worked so well lately.


5 posted on 06/09/2013 8:39:54 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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Valerie to Barry: “Barry get the flunkies at the NSA to pull all the dirt on Rand Paul and those losers over the Supreme Court...and then have someone from the Cincinnati IRS give them each a phone call. Use back channels as always.”


7 posted on 06/09/2013 8:45:02 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, get fit...get ready,)
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If he feels it violates the Constitution, ya don't appeal to the Gov't 'court' for answer. You hold the persons in violation of the Constitution.
10 posted on 06/09/2013 8:46:47 AM PDT by Theoria
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There's as much chance that the covert spying to control Patriots will EVER stop, as there is for any honest Election for the future (they ended in 2008).

They control the Horizontal.....they control the Vertical......

11 posted on 06/09/2013 8:47:26 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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So let’s say this lawsuit happens. Who pays damages and how much?

seems to me it’s just the taxpayers paying. moving money from the left pocket to the right with lawyers getting a cut in between.


12 posted on 06/09/2013 8:47:50 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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Heh; that won’t stop them. Not in the least, Rand.


14 posted on 06/09/2013 8:49:25 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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Wish they were as concerned with Benghazi as they are with this. We’ve known for years that big brother is watching us online. This is not a new revelation. This is just another distraction to pull away our attention from Benghazi, the real scandal.


16 posted on 06/09/2013 8:51:06 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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I'm almost thinking that this is a diversion from the IRS and other data dipping.

And Obamacare is right around the corner.

My guess is that everyone will have to submit their bank accounts, income information, life insurance policy data, medical records etc etc.

This is about how they tap any resources that we have in the name of Obamacare...and it will go way beyond the "tax" that they will charge you.

17 posted on 06/09/2013 8:51:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Wait...isn’t Rand Paul a United States Senator?

So the Executive Branch is doing something under color of law that the Legislative Branch authorized?

Gee Rand, maybe you could do something about that where you live...in the Senate.

Instead of running to the Judges.


19 posted on 06/09/2013 8:55:08 AM PDT by Regulator
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Earlier this week, Paul proposed that Congress pass a law stating that the government can't base its program on the Fourth Amendment. He should know, he must know that no one has been claiming that the Fourth Amendment is the source of power for the program. The source of power for the program is the government's power to provide for a national defense under the Constitution.

Now, he proposes that some other branch of government (Supreme Court) do something to stop the program.

Why doesn't he propose doing something that is within the power of the Congress to do - cut off funding for this data-gathering program? Ask yourself why he doesn't propose that, if he really wants to stop the program?

I think he's a phony. I think Rand Paul wants to appear as if he is opposed to a program that he actually supports.

This illustrates the difference between phonies like Rand Paul and guys like Ted Cruz. Cruz isn't afraid to be honest about his beliefs and isn't afraid to make proposals that might work.

22 posted on 06/09/2013 9:02:34 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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There is no telling which way those lunatic judges will go.

I bet the will support it.

It’s simply time to defund and abolish the entire machine, even the SCOTUS.


25 posted on 06/09/2013 9:18:10 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Silly Paul. You know the “Right to Privacy” “found” in the Constitution is only for abortion.


26 posted on 06/09/2013 9:23:02 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Sunday said he would examine ways to block the National Security Agency’s surveillance programs before the Supreme Court.

With Roberts in charge, this would merely be an exercize in "Mental Masturbation". It would create a lot of publicity for Paul while actually accomplishing absolutely nothing. SC would refuse to hear it.

27 posted on 06/09/2013 9:24:55 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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"If we get 10 million Americans saying we don’t want our phone records looked at then maybe someone will wake up and something will change in Washington,” he said.

Uh, Rand, sweetheart, what about the phone calls, Internet transactions, and emails to be recorded at the Utah Data Center?

29 posted on 06/09/2013 9:30:56 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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What about the rest of us? I`ll take a piece of that action, lets roll.
And while we`re at it, is there a defense fund being set up for the patriot who blew the lid off this latest O`Bozo scandal, I`ll chip a few bucks!


40 posted on 06/09/2013 6:09:08 PM PDT by nomad
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Standing.


41 posted on 06/09/2013 6:34:53 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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Rand can be a putz, but this time, he’s 100% on target. GO RAND GO!


49 posted on 06/10/2013 3:56:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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