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Guardian: PRISM “collection directly from the servers”
Hot Air ^ | June 8, 2013 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 06/08/2013 11:53:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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Who can keep up with all the lies?
1 posted on 06/08/2013 11:53:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Bump


2 posted on 06/08/2013 12:00:41 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So now we know how the white hut knew ob out the obscure Ben ghazi video.


3 posted on 06/08/2013 12:05:23 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Washington Post and then the Guardian exposed the NSA’s Internet snooping program

The WashPost actually reported this first?

I saw nothing until the Guardian came out with it.

4 posted on 06/08/2013 12:08:14 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The FISA court order on page 2 contains non-disclosure requirements.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/06/verizon-telephone-data-court-order

The order pretty much stipulates that they’ve got to maintain the secret, they can’t publicly admit anything about the order or what they’re doing in following the order.


5 posted on 06/08/2013 12:08:14 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All parties cited in the UK article on PRISM denied participation. But we know Google and Facebook are already going in the direction of Big Brother. And these companies pretty much worship Obama or like government contracts.
Do you believe the companies who deny wholesale violation of the Fourth Amendment, or the British?


6 posted on 06/08/2013 12:09:31 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-demand-president-obama-resign/sTtJndXm


7 posted on 06/08/2013 12:10:20 PM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love when the spooks spook themselves. Let’s see some more of this.


8 posted on 06/08/2013 12:12:51 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Meta Data enhancement - Go check this out:


9 posted on 06/08/2013 12:21:55 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That Obama-the-Undocumented Moslem Tyrant by Fraud
CONTINUES to lie to Congress (through his Czar and aids)
is treason.

The STENCH of IMPROPRIETY
FROM THE Chicago Mob is overwhelming.


10 posted on 06/08/2013 12:31:38 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

American journalism has sunk to such a low, the only credible recipient of this year’s Pulitzer Prize may be Britain’s Guardian.


11 posted on 06/08/2013 12:42:56 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m stuck somewhere between lies and plain old bumbling incompetence. There are way too many people mouth-shooting about web/communications/monitoring/intercepting/etc. sorts of things that they are clearly not knowledgeable about. And most of this is not news anyway. From the days of the first geosync telephone satellite the NSA has used its dish farm in West VA to monitor everything that comes or goes from it and all its cousins. The NSA is capable of listening to virtually every air-link in the communications of the world-—microwave, short radio, aircraft, AM FM, WIFI and the rest that I’ve forgotten. Airborne transmissions are NOT SECURE. If you have something important to say at least say it on a land line——they have to get a regular court warrant to listen to that.

Pay attention folks. To survive the 21st century you’ll need to know more than the operation of a flush toilet and where the porn favorites are on your PC.


12 posted on 06/08/2013 1:09:52 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The main thing is. Will anyone go to prison?
Otherwise this all amounts to a show of their power.
With the purposeful intent of intimidating people further. (Not true patriots but the majority of the mushy American populace) .


13 posted on 06/08/2013 1:47:33 PM PDT by boxlunch (Isaiah 41:10)
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“If you have something important to say at least say it on a land line——they have to get a regular court warrant to listen to that.”

Thank you for your post. Perhaps you know the answer to my question: if a person has a land line but it’s connected to the same modem (I think that’s what it’s called, not sure) as the internet connection (Xfinity), is the land line (cordless phone and old push buttone princess phone) secure or not?

Best,
SC


14 posted on 06/08/2013 2:05:14 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the important thing is whether I can get my movie at Redbox


15 posted on 06/08/2013 2:26:47 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ -- http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: tbw2

The companies’ lies are well-worded. They apparently had n Israeli firm helping the NSA, and they did the spying or something.


16 posted on 06/08/2013 2:32:26 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


17 posted on 06/08/2013 2:40:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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The telephone half of your home land line is as secure as a court warrant can make it. your computer modem, if it uses your land line, operates on the same phone wire but in a different frequency band so your high speed PC traffic goes thru a third party like a LAN, Google, etc. so that part can be seen by others. Your push button Princess is as secure as a home phone can be. Your home cordless signal is not powerful enough to get outside your house walls so it’s ok. But if you have a satellite phone you’re talking to the world. If you happen to live in a neighborhood that is fiber optic-connected your line conversations are also as safe as a search warrant but everything else involves a third party. It’s always that third party exposure that creates the weak link and the exposure. Remember that the phone company guys are not the problem-—they live in the same neighborhood and understand clearly the risk of double crossing a customer.


18 posted on 06/08/2013 2:49:30 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; LucyT; thouworm; maggief; Myrddin; shibumi; Hardraade; Candor7; ...
"Who can keep up with all the lies?"

We can. but it ain't easy.


19 posted on 06/08/2013 3:58:52 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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I would say possibly not. If your “land line” is going through a modem, it might be VOIP, which would not be secure.


20 posted on 06/08/2013 5:25:29 PM PDT by dinodino
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