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Manson family member Leslie Van Houten is again denied freedom
LA Times ^ | June 5, 2013 | Andrew Blankstein

Posted on 06/05/2013 6:19:34 PM PDT by jazusamo

A parole board on Wednesday rejected Manson family member Leslie Van Houten's 19th attempt to win freedom.

The board also decided she could not seek parole again for five years.

Van Houten, 63, was convicted of murder and conspiracy in the 1969 killings of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca in their home in Los Feliz. She has repeatedly been denied bids for parole over the last four decades.

“Given the brutality of the murders of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca and Van Houten’s willing and active participation in this evil, pre-planned and violent crime, we are pleased with the parole board’s decision to continue to hold Van Houten accountable for her heinous actions,' L.A. County Dist. Atty. Jackie Lacey said in a statement.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: charlesmanson; labianca; lenolabianca; leslievanhouten; manson; mansonfamily; parole; rosemarylabianca; vanhouten
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To: jazusamo

Why do they have parole hearings for people sentenced to life without possibility of parole?


61 posted on 06/05/2013 7:27:33 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

I believe when their death sentences were commuted it was to life with the possibility of parole but it shouldn’t have been.


62 posted on 06/05/2013 7:30:17 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: untwist

I have heard it reported that overwhelmingly murders are kept in prison because their loved ones come to defy parole.

Most family member die off or lose interest.

The Manson murders were big enough that people come to fight parole by the murders. I personally do not think the Manson people will ever get out. And I support that.


63 posted on 06/05/2013 7:39:55 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

...........you sir have nailed this one!

imagine, if you can, the millions the taxpayers have spent on these vermin!


64 posted on 06/05/2013 7:41:58 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: John W

Ditto for me.


65 posted on 06/05/2013 7:43:20 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jazusamo

I respect your opinion. My view on Capital Punishment has changed as I am now Pro-Choice on it. I think nobody has the right to tell a state what it can do with its undead first degree murderers.

I live in Florida and I kid you not, we have men on death row who committed their murders over 40 years ago. A tremendous waste of money in the appeals process. Better to lock them up for 40 years without the appeals and then figure out whether or not you parole them.

In the case of these Manson women, California has far bigger problems than to continue spending money and space on old, post-menopausal, harmless seniors. That’s my view.


66 posted on 06/05/2013 7:43:56 PM PDT by untwist
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To: untwist

Rot some more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


67 posted on 06/05/2013 7:45:00 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: BunnySlippers

I respect your opinion. I also recognize that California is in a state of default and if they do not get their priorities in order, which I doubt they will, this Manson stuff will be a fairy tale next to their far worse criminal and prison population problems. Just my pov.


68 posted on 06/05/2013 7:48:21 PM PDT by untwist
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To: jazusamo

She should have killed a Republican, she’d have been freed by 1980, maybe earlier.


69 posted on 06/05/2013 8:42:53 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: laconic

“I concur that 44 years in prison is enough time served by Leslie Van Houten (I am NOT in favor of letting Tex Watson out). Criminals who have done far worse get out in much less time on “good behavior”. She has been very helpful to the other prisoners and the warden and members of the LaBianca family have supported her parole (she was not at the Tate murders). If she’s let out, she’ll be close to 70 and no threat to anyone.”

If they let her out, I just have one condition - that you and she be handcuffed together.


70 posted on 06/05/2013 8:52:19 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Rembrandt

Not there?????????

On the night of August 9, 1969, Manson drove Van Houten, Tex Watson, Patricia Krenwinkel, Susan Atkins, Steve Grogan, and Linda Kasabian to 3301 Waverly Drive in Los Feliz, the home of Rosemary and Leno LaBianca. Manson entered the house with Watson and handed him the leather thongs from around his neck telling the LaBiancas that it was a robbery and no harm would come to them; he then left the house, instructing Krenwinkel and Van Houten to go inside and join Watson. The house had previously been cased in a process they called “creepy-crawling.” [2]
Krenwinkel and Van Houten found Rosemary LaBianca in a bedroom, to which she had retired while her husband had fallen asleep while reading in the living room. Watson put a pillowcase over Leno and Rosemary LaBianca’s heads, and then tied the electrical cord from a lamp around their necks. Rosemary LaBianca started struggling; meanwhile, her husband, who had been tied up in the living room, started screaming as Watson began stabbing him. Rosemary grabbed the lamp and swung it at Leslie, who fought with her and knocked the lamp away. Van Houten then held LaBianca down while Krenwinkel tried to stab her in the chest, but the blade bent on LaBianca’s clavicle. Van Houten called for assistance from Watson, who entered the bedroom and took charge. Van Houten exited the room and stood in the hallway, staring into an adjacent empty room.[citation needed]
Watson then stabbed Rosemary LaBianca several times, found Van Houten, handed her the knife, and told her to “do something” since Manson had instructed Watson to make sure everyone got their hands dirty.[1] Leslie proceeded to stab Rosemary 16 times in the lower torso. The autopsy showed that several of the wounds had been inflicted post-mortem. Van Houten then wiped the premises down for fingerprints, changed into clothes from Mrs. LaBianca’s closet, and took food from the refrigerator before leaving the house.


71 posted on 06/05/2013 9:40:35 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: GOPsterinMA

I’d put Van Houten in a men’s prison where she’d suffer a fate worse than death.


72 posted on 06/05/2013 10:28:00 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: SkyPilot

She gets to Breathe.

The people she MURDERED haven’t been able to draw a Breath since she the day she MURDERED them.

Want to show her mercy, use a brand new Rope when you hang her. Same goes for the Gang Bangers.

I’m an equal opportunity supporter of the Death Penalty.

I like the Japanese system. Put them on Death row and don’t tell them when the deed will be done. Could be tomorrow, next week, next month or next year. Surprise, surprise.


73 posted on 06/05/2013 10:49:30 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (America has a two Party system, the Tea Party and the Communist Party.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

One was a flaky kid I knew my sophomore year in high school. He would disappear off to Hollywood for weeks at a time and eventually dropped out of school.

Once he told us that up in Hollywood he was living with a ‘band’ called “The Family”. There was a rock band at the time called ‘The Family of Man’ but he said that wasn’t who he meant, they were simply called ‘The Family’.

That didn’t mean anything to me until two years later when we all found out about ‘The Family’. Vincent Bugliosi mentions a minor Manson hanger-on in ‘Helter Skelter’ who went by the name of ‘Mouse’ which was this kid’s nickname.

A few years later I worked at a pizza joint with a space cadet of a girl in her early 20s. She had a withdrawn personality and didn’t speak much- she was like a lot of drug burnouts that you’d see in that era. Some of the crew were talking about the murders and she just quietly mentioned that she had once lived with the Manson Family. It was bit of a conversation stopper. She didn’t elaborate on it but her younger sister told me that yes, it was true.

The common thread with both of them was that they came from chaotic homes and I guess the Manson Family gave them a feeling of belonging to something. They both lived in Orange County and it was common to go hang out in Hollywood. Hollywood was full of runaways and rootless kids, probably still is, and Manson would take them in.


74 posted on 06/05/2013 11:44:52 PM PDT by Pelham (Deport illegal aliens? Hell yes!)
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To: Steely Tom

“Were they questioned during the investigation?”

One may have been, the boy who went by the nickname ‘Mouse’. That’s a guess on my part based on the fact that Bugliosi mentions him in his book. So he may still have been hanging around The Family when the murders occurred.

The gal I worked with didn’t mention being questioned, not that she was talkative, and her sister didn’t mention it either. I’m quite sure the sister would have told me if that was the case. It was my understanding that she had parted with The Family before the murders.


75 posted on 06/05/2013 11:50:14 PM PDT by Pelham (Deport illegal aliens? Hell yes!)
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To: jazusamo

Yeah, those murders spooked everyone. They happened at a time when murders seemed fairly uncommon in SoCal. That sure has changed.


76 posted on 06/05/2013 11:53:46 PM PDT by Pelham (Deport illegal aliens? Hell yes!)
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To: The KG9 Kid

“I started grade school when all that stuff was reaching it’s peak. Just try to imagine. The culture of the early 1970s had imprinted on me as a young child the fact that hippies were dirty creepy people who were to be avoided “

Hey, you’re talking about my peeps!

Accurately, but still...


77 posted on 06/05/2013 11:59:23 PM PDT by Pelham (Deport illegal aliens? Hell yes!)
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To: jazusamo; Cementjungle; Pelham

Court blanket ruling

Anderson

Kids here need to read up

No offense

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Anderson


78 posted on 06/06/2013 12:28:50 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: wardaddy

Prop 17 overruled People v Anderson. Anyway, not sure how that addresses my question about why people who are supposedly in for “life without the possibility of parole” have parole hearings. Perhaps she appealed at some point and got her sentenced changed.


79 posted on 06/06/2013 1:09:16 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: jazusamo

Good.


80 posted on 06/06/2013 4:17:35 AM PDT by servo1969
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