Posted on 06/05/2013 4:48:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
Americans might generally think that if someone forges a document and uses a Social Security number that does not belong to them, they should go to jail.
Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., believes if you are an illegal alien and you do these things, you should become a U.S. citizen. He made his case for this in the Senate Judiciary Committee.
When the committee was considering amendments to its immigration "reform" bill on May 20, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, pointed to a report published by The Associated Press in March.
This report told the story of Candida L. Gutierrez, a Houston schoolteacher, and Benita Cardona-Gonzalez, an illegal alien from Mexico who stole Gutierrez's identity.
"When Gutierrez's identity was stolen, the thief didn't stop at opening fraudulent credit and bank accounts," the AP reported. "Cardona-Gonzalez assumed Gutierrez's persona completely, using it to get a job, a driver's license, a mortgage and medical care for her children. She even put the stolen name on the birth certificates of her two U.S.-born children in the spots where they list who's the mother."
The identity theft went on for 12 years. Finally, Gutierrez's husband, Brenden Marquardt, pushed the case.
"He traced the identity thief to Topeka, and on the Internet he found a press release from the U.S. attorney's office in Kansas about the prosecutions of other illegal immigrants working at Reser's Fine Foods, the same manufacturer where Cardona-Gonzalez worked," the AP reported. "He contacted federal authorities in Kansas, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Brent Anderson took up their case."
Cardona-Gonzalez, the AP reported, was sentenced to 18 months for possessing fraudulent identification documents. But other illegal aliens who have misused Social Security numbers will get something quite different if Schumer has his way.
After pointing to the victimization of Candida Gutierrez, Grassley explained to the Judiciary Committee a simple amendment he was offering to the immigration bill.
"The secretary (of homeland security) may not grant registered provisional immigrant status to an alien under this section unless the alien fully discloses to the secretary all the names and Social Security account numbers that the alien has ever used to obtain employment in the United States," said Grassley's amendment.
According to the immigration "reform" bill, a "registered provisional immigrant" (RPI) is an illegal alien who the secretary of homeland security has been authorized to convert into a legal alien, who can then work and live in the United States.
Grassley's amendment would not have prohibited illegal aliens from being converted into legal aliens just because they had used names and Social Security numbers that did not belong to them. It would only have required that the illegal aliens make the names and numbers they used known to DHS before they could be granted the right to legally live in the United States.
"If Congress is going to adopt legislation that grants legal status to the 12 million undocumented living unlawfully in the United States, it should not thumb its nose at the millions of Americans who are victims of identity theft, often perpetrated by an undocumented person who steals Social Security numbers to get jobs, benefits, driver's licenses and more," said Grassley.
"This amendment will simply require the person applying for RPI status to disclose any previously used Social Security numbers," said Grassley. "It's the first step to helping clean up the mess that's been created for the victim of identity theft. The amendment also authorizes certain federal agencies, upon receipt of this information, to notify individuals who were the victims."
Schumer dismissed Grassley's proposal.
"When people are living in undocumented status, there are times, I suppose, when they've made up identities, made up Social Security numbers," Schumer told his Judiciary Committee colleagues. "How are they going to remember all that, and are we going to delay RPI status?
"(The) purpose of this is to bring people out of the shadows," Schumer said of the "reform" bill. "We all know when they lived in the shadows, they had to forge documents, forge Social Security numbers, et cetera. We want to stop that once and for all so it never happens again. But this isn't going to help. This is going to leave millions of people still in the shadows and not able to come out of the shadows and won't solve the problem that we're trying to solve, which is to have as few people here illegally as possible, put them on RPI, provisional status and then get them on a path to citizenship."
"I just don't see how, when you've lived here 10 years, and you've had many different identities, many different numbers, you're going to remember them all," said Schumer.
The committee defeated Grassley's amendment 8 to 10 on a party-line vote.
As this column has noted before, the inspector general of the Social Security Administration reported in a 2008 audit report that U.S. employers filed 10.1 million W-2s in tax year 2005 on which the name and the Social Security number did not match. In that same year, 1,650 employers filed more than 500 no-match W-2s -- and one employer filed 37,375.
Elections esp in POTUS election years are going to be pointless if the gang of eight is successful in giving illegals the vote, and Obama the victory of giving it to them.
Schumer is the kind of guy who would have helped the Gestapo round up people. He is a dirt bag.
And what if we don’t? Pardon my negativity, but a lot of this same rhetoric was being bandied about by our side pre-2012. We all got hyped up and happy and it seemed like a lost cause for Barry. I voted. I drove several people to vote. I manned the polling stations, and I helped to transport ballots from my precinct to the county election supervisor. I did my part, and we still lost.
If we don’t beat the Rats in 2014, the fix is in, folks. This is vote fraud on a massive scale, and I have a feeling that they used 2012 to perfect the technique and it will be much more effective and much harder to track in 2014.
Short of a Lexington and Concord for our side, they’re in completely control of the media and the mindless masses. I doubt we’ll be able to win hearts and minds on the idea of limited government (read: fewer handouts) and more personal responsibility (read: work).
the IRS has dried up money that conservative groups would have used to lobby Congress to stop this Amnesty bill.
all i hear is liberal commercials posing as conservatives. so it will pass but mainly cause the OBmaa and IRS tyranny.
We were talking about 2014, keeping the House out of democrat control. so you would have us give up to the democrats as if they don't have enough power already, they own the media ( which is the most powerful branch of gov), the senate, the presidency, the unions, the Soros billionaires and their many organizations , the unions, the government agencies, the gov workers, etc.
Rubios group is running amnesty ads on Rush's show, dishonest ads.
He is getting money to run those from somewhere.
Why does the GOP want to commit suicide by giving illegals the vote?
iMMIGRATION BILL = ETHNIC CLEANSING OF AMERICA
Not on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
And Senate Republicans votes, I suspect that if Rubio was to flee from it then the rest would as would some Dems and the bill goes no-where.
All Rubio has to do is to reverse his stand on giving illegals the vote and the Dems will reject it, but Rubio agreed to citizenship first as Dems condition just to talk.
. those commercials on Rush and Hannity are funded by liberal billionaires (Zuckerberg , Soros) .
Obmaa’s IRS made sure conservative groups don't have money to fund commercial exposing this bill. nor do they have money to lobby congress to stop this Amnesty bill.
when this bill passes blame Obama and his IRS and the rest of the democrat complex(soros, the media,democrats in congress, etc)
Republicans in Congress stopped Bush's Amnesty but this time it looks like soros and OBama has stacked the deck
He's on the talk radio, FNC and running ads talking about this bill. He never once mentions anything related except the border, certainly not mentioning the subject of this thread. He is telling the GOP that this bill is not amnesty, and that will get NO taxpayer money.
Schumer calls him ‘my friend Marco’
Schumer was caught on tape calling them ‘..our Republicans..’
Yes, they Stacked the Deck with McCain, Grahamnesty and Rubio.
How the hell did Mccain make it through his 2010 Senate primary? To be here today and line up with Dems?/
Karl Rove’s groups had no problem getting those tax exemptions for their activities.
Schumer is a disgusting, lying, un-American POS.
Heck they are talking in Iowa already about the 2016 presidential election which is still 3 1/2 years away
This whole bill is a massive, calamitous amnesty—whether or not Rubio or Cruz or Paul feign from time to time concern over whether the border enforcement will be ‘tough’ enough or citizenship will be immediately guaranteed through it.
The sooner we see how thoroughly sold down the river we are by the *entire* GOP criminal enterprise, the sooner we can stop playing into their hands election after election after election.
Time to open your eyes to what the GOP party we’d hoped to defeat them with really is.
this is not satire?
You are completely ignoring the fact that it is the rats who want to give the illegals amnesty because it means instant democrat voters. Your hatred of Marco Rubio is disgusting, but then I do understand that liberals hate Cubans
Schumer wants the democRATS to pick up 11+ million new ‘rat voters in one fell swoop. NYC is planning the same treasonous thing.
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