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Cruz Calls for Abolishing IRS, Moving to ‘Simple Flat Tax’
National Review Online ^ | June 3, 2013 | Andrew Johnson

Posted on 06/03/2013 9:36:15 AM PDT by neverdem

Senator Ted Cruz offered a solution to the IRS’s scandal: get rid of the agency entirely and simplify the tax code so that tax returns fit on a piece of paper the size of a postcard.

“We ought to abolish the IRS and instead move to a simple flat tax,” Cruz said on Fox News over the weekend.

“Put down how much you earn, put down a deduction for charitable contributions, for home mortgage, and how much you owe,” he continued. “It ought to be just a simple, one-page postcard.”...

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abolishirs; flattax; irsscandal; tedcruz
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To: Venturer
everybody including companies charities and everybody pays 10%.

I think Corps. should be exempt as well as charities.

Corporations only collect taxes from their customers, they really don't pay taxes. Charities should be free to collect and giver freely, that's what they're supposed to be for.

JMHO.

41 posted on 06/03/2013 10:09:58 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The government rejects the natural law because it is an obstacle to its control over us.)
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To: muawiyah

You make a good point.


42 posted on 06/03/2013 10:13:20 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The government rejects the natural law because it is an obstacle to its control over us.)
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To: neverdem


43 posted on 06/03/2013 10:13:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: neverdem

Come onnn, we have to pay taxes and lots of it! How will terrorists survive if they can’t get their $100,000 in welfare benefits?

http://nation.foxnews.com/boston-marathon-bombing/2013/04/30/boston-bombers-family-received-more-100k-welfare

How can we expect the IRS employees to do a good job if they do not get their $100 MILLION in bonuses??

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/05/16/report-nearly-100-million-bonuses-handed-out-irs-2009

How can we expect illegals to pay for their health care or for their anchor babies if we can’t give them the $1.3 BILLION (just for one state) that they so deserve?

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-01-21-immigrant-healthcare_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip


44 posted on 06/03/2013 10:14:08 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: neverdem

hear! hear!

and apply it to everybody, regardless of income.


45 posted on 06/03/2013 10:18:56 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: DesertRhino
IRS says the Bronze Policy will cost a family of 4 $20,000 per year ~ which, BTW, is an amount well beyond the average income of college graduates of the last 5 years, half of whom are UNEMPLOYED ~ and otherwise not eligible for subsidized insurance.

That's a one-size-fits all result from IRS' think tank. Imagine what even a reduced IRS will come up with if everything has to be cut to fit one size.

46 posted on 06/03/2013 10:21:32 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kempster

Ted Cruz just keeps makin us Texans more proud we cast that vote each and every day.

Way to go Ted!


47 posted on 06/03/2013 10:22:05 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: neverdem

So I guess my first question is how do you define what “someone earns?” Is it just wages? Does it include Soc Sec, dividend income, interest income, alimony, child support? If you are a sole prop, is it revenue or do you account for costs? Second question is how does allowing charitable deductions solve the issue of targeting tax exempt groups? Does not somebody still have to determine what a charity is?


48 posted on 06/03/2013 10:22:11 AM PDT by oincobx
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To: SpaceBar
The federal government's needs can be readily met through traditional levies on dependent states as well as export duties on every product where we are the world's low cost provider.

Foreigners should pay for the federal government.

49 posted on 06/03/2013 10:24:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Errant

How about this,

Repeal the 16th and 17th amendments

Require congress to present to the President a separate and stand alone tax assessment for each fiscal year within 30 days of the start of a fiscal year. All salaries of the Senate and the House will be held in escrow until the tax assessment reaches the President

In the tax assessment, Congress will be required to determine 3 things - 1) general taxes to be raised; 2) amount to be borrowed; 3) amounts of fees and charges for services rendered (postage fees, patent fees, import and export taxes etc). No other revenue may be raised. The Federal government shall not be able to spend beyond the amounts determine by passage of law. If no budget agreement is reached within 90 days of the new fiscal year. The President, Senators, and Representatives will all have their salaries held in escrow until a budget is passed. Until that time, the Federal government will operate under the previous approved budget.

The amount identified in the general taxes will be divided into a per seat cost in the following manner. One half of the general tax will be divided by 100 and each State will have added to it’s tax assessment the value times the number of Senate seats. Likewise, one half of the general tax will be divided by the number of representatives in congress and each state will be assessed the value times the number of Representative seats. Each state will then receive a bill for each seat in Congress (Representative Apportionment). The annual tax assessment will then be divided by 12 to determine the monthly payment for each state.

States which are not able to pay their monthly tax assessment within 90 days will lose the right to vote in any committee until their account is current. States which fall more than 120 days in arrears will lose the right to vote on the floor. States which fall more than 180 days in arrears will have their state Senators and Representatives salaries held in escrow until the State is current.


50 posted on 06/03/2013 10:25:13 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: neverdem
Replacing the income tax with another income tax is absurd.

We should switch over to consumption (sales) taxes.

The numerous advantages of such taxes are well known.

Nothing could ever be worse than income taxation.

51 posted on 06/03/2013 10:25:43 AM PDT by sargon
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To: Resolute Conservative
There in lies the problem.....this is OUR government, not the politicians.

When will average Joe-six-pack get off his duff and protest (in a big way) the IRS.

It is up to us! We ultimately have the power. If it takes civil unrest...then so be it, but we need to take control back from these people up there in D.C.

We were all called conspiracy nutjobs for believing that our gubbamint was targeting us.....We've been validated, they were and likely perverted the results of an American election.

This is not just a news story. It is a constitutional crisis.

52 posted on 06/03/2013 10:27:02 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: oincobx

Exactly.

Those (and many other questions) are why I ceased to support the “flat tax” proposal and am now a fan of a national retail sales tax.

In order for the IRS to define “income” they need very long, intrusive snouts and definitions of what is “income.”

In a national retail sales tax, we already know what a retail sale is. Charge a tax at that point and send in the money.


53 posted on 06/03/2013 10:27:04 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: kempster

It is criminal for citizens to be taxed on THEIR own income...purely criminal.


54 posted on 06/03/2013 10:27:41 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: taxcontrol

Sounds workable, when are you running!?


55 posted on 06/03/2013 10:29:54 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The government rejects the natural law because it is an obstacle to its control over us.)
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To: neverdem

I donated $50 to the conservative senators’ website:

www.abolishirsnow.com

I hate the IRS. I think it’s an immoral institution.


56 posted on 06/03/2013 10:34:05 AM PDT by steerpike100
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To: Carry_Okie

The charity solution is (if we must have an income tax) to have all entities pay taxes on their profits.

As it happens, churches and other charities don’t turn profits, so they don’t need to pay taxes.


57 posted on 06/03/2013 10:35:07 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: taxcontrol
Repeal the 16th and 17th amendments

I completely agree, especially with the repealing the 16th. We have to get the Federal government off the backs of individuals and onto the backs of the states, where the founders envisioned it should be (i.e., check and balances).

58 posted on 06/03/2013 10:36:16 AM PDT by Errant
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To: steerpike100
www.abolishirsnow.com

I tried to the other day, but it kept crashing - hopefully because everyone was trying to sign up and leave a donation. I was able to sign the petition however. ;-)

59 posted on 06/03/2013 10:38:17 AM PDT by Errant
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To: taxcontrol
Another thread on taxes:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3026766/posts

60 posted on 06/03/2013 10:42:06 AM PDT by Errant
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