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It was whites who stayed home
American Thinker ^ | 06/03/2013 | Silvio Canto Jr.

Posted on 06/03/2013 8:55:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

There were two big shocks for me on election night 2012:

1) Obama beat Romney. I had concluded that 2012 would look a lot like 2004, i.e. a 50-49 victory with about 290 Electoral votes. I did not subscribe to the landslide (i.e. Dick Morris) but did see a narrow Romney victory!

2) All of the talk about the "hispano" vote. I had looked at anecdotal evidence and did not see a "hispano" wave on election day. So I was surprised with all of the conventional wisdom that "hispanos" had reelected Obama.

It turns out that "hispanos" did not really show up after all, according to the CIS, or Center for Immigration Studies:

"Hispanics were 8.4 percent of voters (11.2 million), close to the 8.9 percent the Center for Immigration Studies projected prior to the November election.1 If Hispanic turnout had been what it was in 2008, 450,000 more Hispanics would have voted. "

Unfortunately for Romney, whites also stayed home: "If white turnout had been what it was in 2004, 4.7 million more of them would have voted. Of the 4.7 million whites who sat home on Election Day relative to 2004, 4.2 million did not have a bachelor's degree."

It looks like Romney had a "white" not "hispano" problem.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012electionanalysis; election2012; elections; hispanic; hispano; mittromney; potus; romney; romney2012; white; whitevote
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To: SeekAndFind

Or maybe their votes just weren’t counted...


21 posted on 06/03/2013 9:27:59 AM PDT by Lexington Green (First, they came for the Tea Party...)
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To: Oberon
the Republicans didn’t give them a good enough reason

Perhaps the Republicans didn't give them a good enough reason but the Democrats damn well did. Four more years of Obama’s agenda for America should be reason enough for any thinking Conservative.

The spectacle of four more years of Obama's agenda for America got me out of the house to vote Republican. Don't you now wish more Conservatives had left the house to vote Republican?

A Conservative voting Republican doesn't make them a Republican.

22 posted on 06/03/2013 9:28:06 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney was running a pro-choice TV ad in some states, including Ohio, he lost Ohio.

Now the 30 second pro-choice ad has been removed from youtube, it had Romney saying I’m Romney and approve this message, he must have the authority to block it now.


23 posted on 06/03/2013 9:28:50 AM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s abundantly clear that some Democrat votes counted more than once.

Can’t we assume that some Republican votes counted LESS THAN ONCE?


24 posted on 06/03/2013 9:30:00 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Second American Revolution)
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To: Liberty Valance
I am tired of holding my nose when I vote. The establishment gave us a bad candidate yet again (think Bob Dole or John McCain)

I hope that 2016 enlightens people to ignore the establishment.

25 posted on 06/03/2013 9:30:06 AM PDT by estrogen (voter fraud was huge)
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To: SeekAndFind

It was whites who stayed home.
Spot on the trend any more in the USA is let someone else do it voting gets into my play time.
And the guy didn’t fit into my 100% idea list.


26 posted on 06/03/2013 9:33:36 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: MosesKnows
Perhaps the Republicans didn't give them a good enough reason but the Democrats damn well did. Four more years of Obama’s agenda for America should be reason enough for any thinking Conservative.

But that's just it, MK... "We're not as bad as the other guys" has never been the credo of winners.

27 posted on 06/03/2013 9:34:22 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: estrogen

Unfortunately I can see another bad pick vs Hillary and Hillary walking with it. Say a Christie or a retread from last time, God forbid.

The problem last time was the messy and long primary and the infighting in the GOP. On FR it was a disaster with weekly switches of favorites and endless fights over who sucked the least.

At least next time the dems will have their infighting too, but I bet they rally around Hillary real quick and we end up ripping ourselves up again.


28 posted on 06/03/2013 9:34:52 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Lexington Green
Or maybe their votes just weren’t counted...

I believe there was a lot of that going around.

29 posted on 06/03/2013 9:44:40 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: Tenacious 1

I did not vote, nor have since 2000. I will not use a computer.to.vote that has no concrete evidence of who I voted for, nor that the company that built those diebold machines are not American. We outsource everything, so I outsourced my vote.


30 posted on 06/03/2013 9:46:53 AM PDT by Necrovore (Lu"gen offenbahren Kontrolle)
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To: ryan71
One could argue that, given the media’s ability to pick the Republican candidate, the democrat’s ability to rig votes, and changing demographics, Republicans may never have another chance to win the presidency again.

That's where I am at. Agree 100%.

How does the IRS, media and white house keep a secret following the conclusion of an investigation that implements constitutional felonies for over a year? >50% of our population is now in some way dependent on the fed for their wealth (Entitlements, employment, contracts or corruption). I doubt we'll see an electorate majority vote for the president again, especially now that illegal aliens will be voting in presidential elections.

Last one out, turn off the lights.

31 posted on 06/03/2013 9:49:26 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: SeekAndFind

Many, many Freepers stayed home and then used some Klingon math theory to explain that their missing vote did not help Obama. It did, together with the dead voters and ineligible voters who registered via motor voter.


32 posted on 06/03/2013 9:50:57 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Necrovore
We outsource everything, so I outsourced my vote.

That is more true than perhaps you realize.

33 posted on 06/03/2013 9:53:44 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: estrogen
I am tired of holding my nose when I vote. The establishment gave us a bad candidate yet again (think Bob Dole or John McCain)

I hope that 2016 enlightens people to ignore the establishment.

I believe this is why so many stayed home. We tried this last year. This tactic to "teach the GOP a lesson" was lauded here on FR aggressively by many. It's what got Obama elected (IMO). So,... should we review what the establishment GOP learned from the 2012 election?

I believe it was our last best hope following the Supreme Court Ruling on Obamacare. I don't think we'll ever get another chance to vote for a conservative. Given the demographics now and in the future, I don't see a republican winning another election until America is involved in another war. National Security is the only thing Americans would vote for Republicans on.

34 posted on 06/03/2013 9:55:07 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Necrovore
I did not vote, nor have since 2000. I will not use a computer.to.vote that has no concrete evidence of who I voted for, nor that the company that built those diebold machines are not American. We outsource everything, so I outsourced my vote.

Good for you. Thank you for your patriotic participation in the governance of our Republic. A fine American.

Why the hell do you follow FR or anything political for that matter if you don't vote? You are a non-factor.

35 posted on 06/03/2013 9:58:21 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Oberon

I don’t know. I left the house, went to the polling place, voted in the congressional, state and local races, and left a blank space at the top of the ticket. It’s not that I had no incentive to vote; I was strongly motivated not to vote GOP in the presidential election.


36 posted on 06/03/2013 9:58:48 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: SeekAndFind

Working class white independents stayed home. They didn’t like anyone running. Some areas had a very large dropoff for both Romney (from McCain of all people) and Obama from 2008. That was even in areas McCain lost and Romney won.


37 posted on 06/03/2013 9:58:50 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: SeekAndFind
Romney isn't the one with the problem. The problem was the ignoramuses who stayed home because a PERFECT conservative candidate didn't materialize. So, because so many so-called conservatives decided to take their marbles and go home, we have to endure another term by an extremely evil individual. Thanks guys. Good call!!!
38 posted on 06/03/2013 10:01:44 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Ingtar
It is the White “swing or moderate” voters who vote for the real thing

Sometimes those "swing" votes are social conservatives who don't like big business CEO's that 'don't understand them'" My cousin was one of them. He's pro-gun and pro-life and voted Obama. He would have voted for Santorum and did so in the primary. Romney wasn't reliable on his social issues, so he voted his union card.

39 posted on 06/03/2013 10:02:10 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Tenacious 1

“Conservatives succeeded as they apparently did stay home to protest Romney as our RINO candidate.”

Nah, not really, at least not in large enough numbers to affect the election.


40 posted on 06/03/2013 10:03:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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