Posted on 06/03/2013 7:41:56 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
The Supreme Court on Monday upheld the police practice of taking DNA samples from people who have been arrested for a serious offense but not convicted of a crime, ruling that it amounts to the 21st century version of fingerprinting.
The ruling was 5-4. Justice Antonin Scalia, a conservative, joined three of the court’s more liberal members — Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan — in dissenting.
The five justices in the majority ruled that DNA sampling, after an arrest “for a serious offense” and when officers “bring the suspect to the station to be detained in custody,” does not violate the Fourth Amendment’s prohibition of unreasonable searches.
At an oral argument in February, Justice Samuel Alito called the question perhaps the most important criminal procedure case the court had taken up in decades.
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Agreed.
Anyone who thinks this is a good idea obviously trusts Government FAR more than I do.
I wodner if it’s possible to kick the Supeme court leeches out of hteir jobs for deriliction of duty, and appoint others with actual morals and ethics and hwo undersatand our constitution and who aren’t owned by the govenrment for skeletons i ntheir closets?
This latest rulign should leave NO doubt that our supreme court is now a majority of TRAITORS to the peopel TRAITORS to the constitution
[[I’d argue that a fingerprint does not contain information on heredity, propensity to disease, and all of the defining information of one’s physical composition. So, not really similar.]]
Absolutely, You just nailed it- There’s a masive push by our govenrment to pass laws which will give our govenrment the ‘right’ to bar citizens from owning guns, (and apaprently fro mexcersizign hteir free speech too) and htis collection of DNA WILL BE antoher tool at their disposal for barring someone they deem ‘unfit’ from owning a gun
A couple of years ago our govenrment was puttign together a MASSIVE nationwide network of medical record, and at hte same time doctors began handing out anti-depressents, anti-anxiety, anti-psychotic drugs liek htey were candy- for everythign from actual depression or mental issues, to thigns as minor as aches and pains- claiming that unbalanced seratonine levels ‘coudl cause minor pains’-
This was NO accident- all those folks who were prescribed those anti- drugs are now in a database with a red flag beside their name and albeeled as ‘possible threat’
Now we have our governemtn collecting DNA which WILL do just what you said- be markers for any history of anything- even slight depression- which might have run in a family, but which NEVER caused any problems (despite thsoe members havign owned guns- but now oru govenrment WILL intervein and confiscate the guns)
Think it can’t happen Folks? Think this is all just a ‘bunch of hysteria over nothing’? It IS happening- NY is confiscating guns from folks hwo were on depression medicines but who have commited no crimes- They are cofniscatign guns WITHOUT due process and WITHOUT any actual professional diagnosis’ of depression- Other states will sooon follow
[[I don’t feel real good about it. I can imagine a world where the HHS gets their hands on my DNA, and finds a way to raise my insurance rates, if it finds a genetic marker for cancer.]]
Excellent point- The potential for abuses are massive- I’m sure the left will argue htough “Well, ethically, you shoudl find out if you are goign to be a liability because of a genetic issue, and if so, you shoudl be obligated to ‘pay your fair share’”
See where that is going?
[[I can imagine a world where the federal governemnt starts to build a national genetic family tree...]]
Pssst- the tree already has rooted itself
[[I can imagine a world where the federal government identifies that I have a genetic predisposition to being violent...and I can no longer pass a background check.]]
AgaIN- the [potential for abuses by such a system are frightening- If they can’t get you via medical records, they may still be able to ban you from anythign requiring a backgroudn check via DNA records fro mtheir database
[[And it is nooooothing like fingerprints...which are good for one solitary purpose, and nothing else - establishing identity]]
Precisely
[[I know a few cells aren’t much to be seized, but where do you draw the new line and what keeps them from moving it again once it is drawn? Remember, we already had a line, at least in the opinion of some, and this changes it.]]
That’s thje tactic of hte left- keep movign hte goalposts until no right are left- and incredibly, Americans keep votign for htis loss of rights-
Not only cops, DNA can be planted by anyone.
Cigarette butts, hair from a brush for example. It's not possible to do that with a finger print.
Talk about an easy way to set up an enemy.
As stated, DNA can be used for more than ID. But if that’s all it’s used for, it’s pretty much the same thing.
Sure is. Judges can be impeached and removed from office using the exact same procedure as for executive branch officials. Hasn't been used very often, though.
Game over.
The USA is now a Gestapo Totalitarian State.
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USA is f***ed.
And don’t be surprised if it gets shared with the IRS to ‘facilitate the accuracy’ of your Obammycare.
Along those lines, isn’t it curious how the Innocence Project can use DNA to free people from ‘Death Row’, but it seems DNA is never convincing enough to use for an expedient execution?
Those wackobirds? They'll be the first to get tested.
They’ve probably got most people’s DNA in a data base already. Ever lick a stamp? This will just make it where they don’t have to keep it secret any more.
Exactly and if it ends up in an Obamacare file, oh Ooops.
I like your posts.
In all fairness, W. Bush was responsible for the vile HIPAA, which is a police state fantasy, stripping away the privacy of medical records until it is repealed, plus a generation, as undoubtedly some bureaucrats would go to lengths to preserve its data.
It isn’t being used for that purpose.. so again not really different.
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