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To: meyer; Mr. Jeeves
He's a Christian, they hate that

My question was a serious one.

Can anyone who follows the game better than I do explain why his half-season and playoff record in Denver doesn't make him an "NFL-level QB"?

Everybody says it, but I don't understand what they are talking about.

35 posted on 06/02/2013 6:58:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble

I dont understand it either.

I hate the NFL, but all I saw from Tebow was him winning games and getting to the playoffs.


44 posted on 06/02/2013 7:21:48 AM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Jim Noble
Can anyone who follows the game better than I do explain why his half-season and playoff record in Denver doesn't make him an "NFL-level QB"?

He doesn't play an NFL-style game. Denver used the college style "spread option" formation with Tebow that year and surprised and squeaked out several narrow wins against a lot of NFL defenses who weren't quite ready for it. Now those coaches have all watched the films and know what's coming when Tebow comes into a game. He isn't going to catch his opponents by surprise ever again.

Thus, he has to learn to play in a pro-style offense, running designed plays proven to work against NFL defenses. He has apparently struggled mightily with that task in practice.

65 posted on 06/02/2013 8:09:43 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Jim Noble
Can anyone who follows the game better than I do explain why his half-season and playoff record in Denver doesn't make him an "NFL-level QB"?

Because there was a lot of luck involved in that record. Tebow is a lot like another Florida QB, Rex Grossman. Grossman took the Seminoles to major bowls, was runner up for the Heisman, was drafted first round by the Bears, started his second year, and led the Bears to the Super Bowl. But Grossman was like the little girl with the little curl right in the middle of her forehead. When he was good, Rex was very, very good. But when he was bad he was horrid. And he was horrid a lot. A lot of his wins, like Tebow's wins, were due to the team effort and not outstanding performance by the QB.

Tebow's inaccuracies as a passer are well known. But his shortcomings go deeper than that. He lacks feel for the game. He lacked concentration; coaches would give him a series of plays to run during the next Denver possession and he'd be asking them again what they wanted a few minutes later. Tebow showed little talent for reading defenses. He almost never audibled and in his 11 starts he was flagged for delay of game 7 times, far more than any other QB and another indicator of his confusion in the huddle. But according to accounts from the Denver coaches, Tebow's major shortcoming is being unable to admit he has those shortcomings. So he's not prepared to change. Tebow is a very good man and by all accounts a tremendous leader. But he has not shown that he can put that leadership to work as a quality QB. He's just missing those intangibles that make up an NFL quarterback.

85 posted on 06/02/2013 11:39:26 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Jim Noble

47.9% completions, a five game streak with 10 or less completions a game, a very bad INT to TD ratio. The fact is Tebow’s ONLY positive stat is his W-L record, and when you take into account that the defense shaved 14 1/2 point off their average allowed it shows that isn’t really just him (when a team wins a game their starting QB only completed 2 passes in it’s generally in SPITE of the QB not because of). Most of his stats are in the bottom 3rd of the league, some are in the bottom 10th. He’s just not all that. Add in the cult that follows him around and the distraction that creates, and there’s just not a lot of reason for anybody to pick him up.


87 posted on 06/02/2013 11:47:37 AM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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