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Teacher Faces 1 Year In Prison, Job Loss, For Protecting Children with Concealed-Carry
http://www.mrconservative.com ^ | may 25, 2013 | Katie Kieffer

Posted on 05/26/2013 10:17:15 AM PDT by lowbridge

Kansas elementary school teacher Daniel Nagel faces a year in prison and job loss for going above and beyond the call of duty and protecting his students with his concealed-carry permit.

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On Monday, May 20, Dan was teaching gym and carrying his handgun in an inside-the-waistband hip holster. So, there was zero chance that his gun would fall out of his holster or hurt his students and a 100 percent chance that Daniel could defend his students if a gunman breached the school. Daniel is highly competent with firearms; he practices at the range monthly and also takes yearly classes to advance his firearm skills.

Another teacher observed what must have been the silhouette of Daniel’s handgun beneath his clothes while he was actively teaching his students. This teacher-observer panicked and told the principal that Daniel had a gun. Without investigating, the principal immediately called the police. Despite the fact that Daniel is a concealed-carry permit holder with a spotless record, the police arrested him for carrying in a “gun free zone.”

A few police officers tried to remove Daniel’s gun from his holster and were unable so Daniel had to tell them how. Which, again, speaks to how secure Daniel’s gun was at his side. To reiterate, there was no chance that his gun would endanger children; there was a very large chance that Daniel could use his gun to save their lives. The Wichita Police Department is a 12-minute drive and seven miles away from White Elementary. In the event of a mass attack, hundreds of defenseless children and teachers could be killed before the cops would arrive.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; guncontrol; gunfreezone; guns; kansas; rapeofliberty; secondamendment; sourcetitlenoturl; waronliberty
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1 posted on 05/26/2013 10:17:15 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Why am I all too oft tempted to say..

‘’ I hate what this country has become. ‘’

Thanks for posting this.


2 posted on 05/26/2013 10:18:54 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: lowbridge

But it’s OK to have sex with the little darlings, right? /s


3 posted on 05/26/2013 10:21:54 AM PDT by llevrok (2013: - Obama vs America. The new cold war)
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To: lowbridge
What are the chances the DA or the Judge will have a lucid moment and kill this prosecution?

yeah, slim and none.

4 posted on 05/26/2013 10:22:14 AM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: theDentist

And Slim just left town. Seriously though, this guy is a moron. He knows there are laws and rules and he consciously breaks both. Then he let’s someone spot his gun.... Stupid, stupid, stupid.


5 posted on 05/26/2013 10:24:19 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: lowbridge

How odd
In April of this year Gov. Sam Brownback signed a bill allowing Kansas employees of public schools and colleges to carry concealed weapons, the Lawrence Journal-World reports.

Guess the teacher should have checked with the Principal before carrying.

He may be in jail, out of a job and have no teaching certificate before the summer is over...


6 posted on 05/26/2013 10:27:27 AM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: lowbridge

The left is nothing but a bunch of pansies. They would rather have kids murdered than be around a gun.

I hate what this country has become.


7 posted on 05/26/2013 10:27:30 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: lowbridge

I would hope he appeals this all the way to the Supremes. The Gun Free Zones are unconstitutional and are magnets for psycho/criminals to go on a shooting spree. This law needs to be repealed.


8 posted on 05/26/2013 10:27:33 AM PDT by Snow Eagle ("... Against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC")
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To: Lurker

Lesson learned. If you’re going to C&C, do a better job of concealing it when in liberal zones.


9 posted on 05/26/2013 10:28:00 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: lowbridge

Politically correct agitated wimps now make policy. Ordinary people suffer.


10 posted on 05/26/2013 10:29:14 AM PDT by allendale
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To: theDentist

It is commendable that the guy was carrying a hand gun for protection of the school!
But on the other hand he did break the law and cause a panic incident. He knew the law as a concealed carry person. Until that law is repealed or changed it has to be obeyed. No one at the school could have even given him permission to carry.
Tough consequences but the law is the law!


11 posted on 05/26/2013 10:30:16 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: lowbridge

This guy should remember the Nazi’s are out there trying to make brownie points with the Gestapo..


12 posted on 05/26/2013 10:33:04 AM PDT by PLD
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To: lowbridge

In many areas, employees may leave their privately owned firearm locked in their vehicle in a school parking lot. I don’t know if this law applied in his jurisdiction.

If he’s got a conceal carry permit then he knew the rules. He made a poor choice and he’ll pay for it.


13 posted on 05/26/2013 10:34:46 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: ASOC

The teacher should get in touch with the ACLJ..They are the Christian lawyers that have suits against the IRS..


14 posted on 05/26/2013 10:36:40 AM PDT by PLD
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To: lowbridge

Jury nulification, it’s widely known to be used in the black community. It’s openly discussed. It’s time we start using it too.
Keep your personal views hidden during selection. Then vote not guilty, deliberate and argue as long as they want. (they’ll remove you and replace you with the alternate for “failure to deliberate”) Stay there and argue your point.

There are enough gun owners that trivial gun “crimes” like this should never win a conviction.


15 posted on 05/26/2013 10:44:46 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Conserev1

So, are the police expected to disarm when they visit a school?

Your statement falls on its face for the lack of logic.

He has (had) a CC “permit”.

I’ll lay odds of 9:2 that he’s a better shot with his sidearm than the top shooter on that force.

His sidearm was NOT seen, but a silhouette UNDER HIS SHIRT was SUSPECTED by someone in the employee area.

His sidearm was so well secured that he had to INSTRUCT the cop on how to remove it from its holster.

This defines unwarranted persecution, and you stand there cheering the JBT’s.

Gotta go battery dead


16 posted on 05/26/2013 10:45:29 AM PDT by Don W (There is no gun problem, there is a lack of humanity problem!)
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To: Conserev1
Until that law is repealed or changed it has to be obeyed

No it doesn't. Every American has a duty to ignore unconstitutional laws.

17 posted on 05/26/2013 10:47:01 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Ajnin

Yes, and a duty to vote to acquit. Their laws become meaningless unenforceable junk if juries refuse to convict.


18 posted on 05/26/2013 10:49:58 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Ajnin

I guess that’s all fine and dandy and you can do your duty behind bars. 55 mile an hr speed limit may be unconstitutional as well but drive 105mph and see what happens!


19 posted on 05/26/2013 10:51:36 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Lurker
Yeah a truly smart individual would follow the rules and say "if only I had my gun," after an event happens and there's 30 more dead children at a school. Kind of like that woman who saw her parents gunned down at Luby's in TX all those years ago.....she now travel the country giving pro-gun speeches and explaining that if she'd had her gun, which would've been illegally concealed, her parents would not have been gunned down.

At some point people in this country need to wake up and realize that maybe, just maybe, the rules/laws our "betters" set for us aren't in our best interest. I have little hope of that though because many are content to be sheep.

For another example - I building I worked in had a door in which to open (whether entering or departing) you had swipe a badge with a magnetic strip. According to the rules, only one person was able to go through at a time. If you were exiting, there was a green button that was labeled to indicate pushing the button automatically unlocked the door.

One day, the fire alarms started going off; flashing lights, sirens, buzzers, the whole nine yards. You could smell burning electronics. As I made my way to the exit, I saw a line of about 30 people, each diligently allowing the door to slowly shut after the individual in front of them passed through.......then they would swipe their badge and pass.

I told them "you can burn in an orderly fashion if you want to, but this is here for a reason," as I pushed the button and exited with 6 of my co-workers. Dutifully the individual who was rightfully next to exit, allowed the door to close behind us before swiping his badge to exit.

They had been hounded and expressly informed at the the badge in/out and one-at-a-time rules.........it overrode common sense because they'd not been told what to do in a fire/emergency. But at least thy followed the rules.

20 posted on 05/26/2013 10:53:11 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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