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Coming: A Two-Tiered Health Care System
Townhall.com ^ | May 25, 2013 | John C. Goodman

Posted on 05/25/2013 7:55:06 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 05/25/2013 7:55:06 AM PDT by Kaslin
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2 posted on 05/25/2013 7:57:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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It’s the communist way, comrade

the party elite never had to wait in line or suffer without medication

just wait until someone over 70 tries to get some IRS clerk to approve hip replacement or chemo, especially if their personal records are flagged with any conservative affiliation


3 posted on 05/25/2013 8:05:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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Our healthcare systems will de-evolve into a mess with two service ties.

1. Wait in line, wait several months, wait for the bureaucrats to decide your fate, crappy, one size fits all, costly and very wasteful, government run, taxpayer paid service care.

2. Out of pocket service care that only the rich can afford. If you really need that surgery, then pay up!

4 posted on 05/25/2013 8:06:29 AM PDT by dhs12345
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Logically, the author’s projections make sense, and would be the normal economic response. However, we in the US have a hangup with this thing called “fairness.” It wouldn’t surprise me to see legislation forbidding this type of behavior, because it “unfairly” advantages people who have more money.

How could such legislation proceed? I’m not sure—but one way would be to forbid doctors accepting insurance payments from having any sort of side contract for additional service.

Of course, people of means will eventually find a way to pay for better service. There are already the beginnings of medical tourism for elective surgery. My crystal ball says that offshore medical clinic ships will become a reality. Medical care on those ships will be like gambling on a cruise ship, where the slots are turned on and the wheel starts to spin once the boat is 12 miles offshore.


5 posted on 05/25/2013 8:09:04 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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2. Out of pocket service care that only the rich can afford. If you really need that surgery, then pay up!

They will outlaw tier 2.

6 posted on 05/25/2013 8:11:16 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: silverleaf

“Amerika’s nomenklatura”

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=528809

For those who remember the old Soviet Union, it was a grim place — at least for average citizens. But not so for those in government. Contrary to the official ideals of equality and a classless society that the ruling communist regime espoused, the USSR created a privileged class of party members inside government — the nomenklatura.

This semipermanent bureaucracy earned higher incomes, got better health care, ate better food and had greater job security than average Russians, the much-despised proletarians. Today, our bloated government seems, in significant ways, to be creating this same dynamic.


7 posted on 05/25/2013 8:12:10 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Kaslin; mickie; flaglady47
I'm getting so tired of the ObamaCare horror stories.....because I never read a single thing about any of our leaders doing anything about this coming disaster...no one doing anything to save us.....no one organizing or mobilizing for repeal....nada, nothing.....just more and more horror stories....and the scandals have wiped this off the front page, even the back page.

Leni

8 posted on 05/25/2013 8:16:38 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Say Hey Trey!)
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I will, of course, be on the lower tier, but that doesn’t mean my doctor won’t call me. He loves to talk over the phone. He’s never met my wife, but they can talk for an hour when he calls. I haven’t given him my email or cell phone number.

That thought out of the way, the leftnuts wanted Obamacare because they thought it would mean free healthcare for everyone, no more discrimination between rich and poor, and all that crap. When everyone discovers they are paying more, a lot more, and getting less at twice the hassle, people are going to want something else. The rich will still have quality healthcare, but the poor will be reduced to lab rats being tortured by bureaucrats.


9 posted on 05/25/2013 8:18:14 AM PDT by pallis
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“These doctors promise prompt access to care and usually talk with their patients by telephone and email. They serve as an advocate for their patients, in much the same way as an attorney is an advocate for his client.”

Unfortunately, those doctors will be on the obamacare hit list and not be able to have hospital privileges.(The you will assimilate clause)


10 posted on 05/25/2013 8:18:49 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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No One Knew Anything; Sound Familiar??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcudlm6tPa0
YouTube - Videos from this email


11 posted on 05/25/2013 8:20:47 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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12 posted on 05/25/2013 8:23:38 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: FreeReign
Yup. But not for rich Hollywood actors and our keepers in Washington — the upper snootly classes.

The common riff-raff like you and I will be screwed.

13 posted on 05/25/2013 8:24:35 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Pearls Before Swine
...medical tourism...

Eventually to be outlawed for the proles, only the politburo elite will be allowed.

Leave for medical care and IRS will confiscate all your accessible wealth, inaccessible wealth now makes you a criminal.

You can leave but you can never check out.

14 posted on 05/25/2013 8:26:41 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: FreeReign

Medical tourism will become a big business.


15 posted on 05/25/2013 8:27:51 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: FreeReign
They will outlaw tier 2.

I foresee a rise is out of country vacations for surgeries.

16 posted on 05/25/2013 8:34:58 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Cyprus - the beginning (and I reserve the right to re-post))
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To: MinuteGal
... no one organizing or mobilizing for repeal....nada, nothing.....just more and more horror stories ...

Actually, I believe the GOP-controlled House of Representatives has on multiple occasions voted to repeal OdumboCare. Reid and the dems just sit on it in the Senate and, of course, even if the Senate did pass the repeal, the Won would just veto it.

Work on getting good conservatives elected to the Senate next year; donate if there are not races in your state. I think that the scandals currently erupting in Washington, combined with what I expect will be near-universal revulsion with what OdumboCare is going to do to our health care system and health insurance premiums, could easily lead to a electoral tsunami in November 2014. It's even conceivable (though not likely) that we, the good guys, could have an almost veto-proof majority.

Unless, of course, the eGOP once more snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.

17 posted on 05/25/2013 8:37:02 AM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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Just two tiers? I don’t think so... Many tiers... With healthcare for the poor being at the bottom, the subsidized middle class in the middle, and those able and willing to pay the most being at higher tiers.

It amuses me when otherwise conservative people think that “equality” can and should be mandated for some services that we pay for and consume, while other goods and services should have their prices set by the market. Government intervention strikes again by “we the people” and the puppet masters we elect...


18 posted on 05/25/2013 8:37:22 AM PDT by JustTheTruth
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To: Travis McGee
Excellent, my FRiend:!


19 posted on 05/25/2013 8:38:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ('How empty and dead' were they to let Chris Stevens, one of them , die for 'Obama-Clinton fiction?')
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“Sorry sir, but our records indicate that you are a conservative and own a firearm, therefore your daughter is not covered under the current healthcare system. So I regret to inform you that she cannot have the needed medical care she requires and will no doubt expire sometime later today.”


20 posted on 05/25/2013 8:49:29 AM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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