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When the Messenger Gets Shot, Others Are Sure to Follow
Townhall.com ^ | May 23, 2013 | Matt Towery

Posted on 05/23/2013 3:33:58 AM PDT by don-o

In the world of White House politics and the politics of handling the White House press corps, the president's press secretary is the most visible target and often the first to fall when the media turns on an administration. And it appears that press secretary Jay Carney may well be approaching the point at which his deft handling of the media in past years suddenly becomes a liability in the middle of not just one but multiple presidential controversies.

I have known a few other past presidential press secretaries, but not Carney. As a rule of thumb, I would say that, although they always press their man's case with careful but passionate words, presidential press secretaries generally tend to be one of the highest ranking members of any administration who behind the scenes understands the gravity of an issue or scandal and are more grounded in the reality of a situation.

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Seeking FReeper input: Do we need a Live Thread for the WH daily press briefing?
1 posted on 05/23/2013 3:33:58 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o
Good morning.

Do we need a Live Thread for the WH daily press briefing?

I would say yes, to categorize all of the lies, but to liberals/democRATs/marxists/progressives (sorry for the redundancy), lies don't matter.

In the fwiw department, a message to our spell checker; I will not capitalize "marxist."

5.56mm

2 posted on 05/23/2013 3:41:53 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: don-o

If somebody has the time to put it up, I’d say yes. We are watching the disintegration of the whole enterprise, I think, and it would be nice to have a written record of observations.


3 posted on 05/23/2013 3:42:26 AM PDT by livius
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To: M Kehoe
I will not capitalize "marxist."

In a similar vein, I always capitalize 'Rats. They are a force in Washington to be reckoned with, and deserving of all due respect that can be placed on them by being careful to always capitalize these 'Rats.

4 posted on 05/23/2013 3:52:38 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: don-o
I would like to see more stuff comparing Obama's ass-clown Carney to Sadamn Hussein's ass-clown Ali:

Scandals? What scandals? I assure you, Barack Hussein Obama (Mmmm,mmmm mmmm!) has nothing to do with any of them!

5 posted on 05/23/2013 4:03:19 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: don-o

“Do we need a Live Thread for the WH daily press briefing?”

Probably; we also need a “media red herring” thread where other stories are thrown up for distraction (Angelina Jolie, Syria, etc.).


6 posted on 05/23/2013 4:04:22 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: don-o
"...they suspect Carney has been splitting hairs and tailoring words to fool them."

Gosh, how could anyone ever suspect that?

The media willfully ignored the truth for 5 years and now they "suspect" the Obama team might have lied?

History will not be kind to this generation of reporters.

7 posted on 05/23/2013 4:11:46 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Senator_Blutarski

“...they suspect Carney has been splitting hairs and tailoring words to fool them.”

When he defines the word “is” he will have jumped the shark


8 posted on 05/23/2013 4:24:02 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: don-o

“of not just one but multiple presidential controversies.”

These are not “controversies.” These are violations of our civil rights committed by Obuma.

If we expect to win this war and bring more people to our side, we best start using the proper language to demonize these left wing fascists.


9 posted on 05/23/2013 4:56:52 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: don-o
One sentence for Carney: if GWB was held responsible for Abu Ghraib, then Obama IS responsible for all the criminality that his minions do/have done. And most intelligent Americans KNOW HE KNEW EVERYTHING.
10 posted on 05/23/2013 5:09:57 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: M Kehoe; kearnyirish2; livius

Thanks for input. Yesterday’s WH briefing live thread was fairly dead. Seems like we don’t have enough FReepers to support two simultaneous live threads.

Looking at the WH site, there’s no briefing listed for today. The Dear Leader shall be speaking on counterterrorism at two o’clock.

While I do have the time to put up a thread for that, I lack the courage. (I may find some, if no one else does.)


11 posted on 05/23/2013 6:29:26 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: originalbuckeye

THAT is actually a good question for the Press Corpse to ask themselves. One reason I started the Live Threads was because it seemed that they were actually showing some signs of life. I think it’s somewhat likely that Carney is in the dark on a great deal.


12 posted on 05/23/2013 6:44:16 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Yes, it’s always good to put all your mockery in one basket.


13 posted on 05/23/2013 6:49:05 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: don-o
The Dear Leader shall be speaking on counterterrorism at two o’clock.

That should be good for a few laughs.

14 posted on 05/23/2013 6:58:22 AM PDT by livius
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To: don-o; FlingWingFlyer; SoFloFreeper; Yosemitest; Resolute Conservative; B4Ranch; ...

Yup, we do need a Daily WH Thread!

Carney is to Obama what Goebbels was to Hitler: “Minister of Propaganda.”

May I suggest a “Spin Index?”

A Spin Index for a lie that contains the phrase “waiting for all the facts to be gathered” will be rated as a One Goebbels.

A Two Goebbels would be for a lie that contains the phrase “make sure that it never happens again.”

A Three Goebbels would be awarded to a lie that contains the phrase “I don’t know.”

Each time a lie is repeated by the Minister of Propaganda it receives an Oak Cluster.

BTW, the Goebbels Rule is “If a lie is repeated loud enough and often enough, then eventually the people will come to believe it.”

Both Hitler and Obama were/are loud and repetitive orators.

Obamanation would be nothing if they had not used the Goebbels Rule to perfection.


15 posted on 05/23/2013 7:24:13 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: don-o

< Seeking FReeper input: Do we need a Live Thread for the WH daily press briefing? >

Absolutely. If we survive this unprecedented, slow-motion Constitutional crisis, i think it’s important that our grandkids and GGkids have archives of information to study so they can prevent future America-hating foreigners from obtaining dictator-level control over their country. :-)


16 posted on 05/23/2013 7:26:17 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Graewoulf

Love it! And don’t forget, “Let me be clear...”


17 posted on 05/23/2013 7:28:37 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress; Graewoulf; jiggyboy
Thanks. I believe I have enough support to go ahead with Live Thread. Jiggyboy has made bingo cards - here's the first edition, since revised and updated

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As to the Geobbels index, maybe a shorthand in posts - "That was a 3G!"

18 posted on 05/23/2013 7:33:02 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
Yesterday's Carnival thread competed with

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19 posted on 05/23/2013 7:35:20 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

Yup. That was where the drama was. I figure that’s why the briefing thread was dead. Looks like the Dear Leader speech will trump the Jay Bob Show for today, but I’ll try to keep an eye out.


20 posted on 05/23/2013 7:41:15 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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