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Lois Lerner didn’t say anything today. Why that’s a bad thing for the Obama Administration.
WaPo ^ | May 22, 2013 at 2:58 pm | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 05/22/2013 12:10:59 PM PDT by Red Steel

Oh Lois Lerner, you say it best when you say nothing at all.

As expected, Lerner, the head of the Internal Revenue Service’s tax-exempt office, pled the Fifth Amendment rather than testify today in front of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee about her role in the targeting of conservative groups.

In her silence — she technically didn’t refuse to testify but rather she invoked her right to not incriminate herself — Lerner may have done herself some good, legally speaking, but she didn’t do any favors for an Obama Administration that is doing all it can to snuff the controversy out.

Here’s why.

First of all, Lerner has been, from the get-go, the face of this scandal. But now she is the face AND the voice of it. After today, the entire country — or at least those people paying some attention to the news — will have seen the clip of Lerner saying that she had “not done anything wrong” just before she invoked her right not to answer questions from members of Congress.

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To: Red Steel

Issa just said that he is “looking in to the possibility of recalling her and that the hearing stands in recess”. It looks like Issa is calling her back in!


21 posted on 05/22/2013 12:30:03 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: firebrand

I see that. He should’ve seized upon Gowdy’s observation and not let Lerner go. Gowdy is firing on all cylinders throughout these hearings.


22 posted on 05/22/2013 12:30:42 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Signalman

“The 5th ONLY applies to criminal charges. It has no bearing at all in civil cases.”

That is in the Constitution?


23 posted on 05/22/2013 12:31:04 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: All

In a courtroom situation (criminal case), a defendant does not have to testify since the government has the burden of proving guilt with independent evidence.

However, if the defendant does decide to testify, he or she can no longer invoke the 5th amendment right (against self-incrimination)and must answer questions posed by the prosecution.

So applying the same standard to today’s hearing, once Lerner gave her opening statement she, in my opinion, no longer had the right to invoke her 5th Amendment right.


24 posted on 05/22/2013 12:31:12 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

Well, then, can she even be sued? Does she have immunity?


25 posted on 05/22/2013 12:32:34 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: isthisnickcool

Too late. Her child has a cold and requires her full attention. /s LOL


26 posted on 05/22/2013 12:32:43 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Red Steel

She screwed up her 5th amendment claim, though. She swore in, declared herself innocent (i.e.: testified to her own innocence of wrongdoing), THEN invoked the 5th.

By making her declaratory statement under oath, she waived her 5th amendment rights.


27 posted on 05/22/2013 12:35:37 PM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: truth_seeker

Yes. “in a criminal case...”


28 posted on 05/22/2013 12:36:22 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Signalman

I agree, and I agree with Gowdy’s lightening quick assessment. Issa did entrap her further by getting her to ‘testify’ to a report. She had the wool pulled over her eyes on that one. LOL


29 posted on 05/22/2013 12:37:08 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

‘lightening’ should be ‘lightning’. Ooops.


30 posted on 05/22/2013 12:37:36 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Perdogg
Heads should roll at the IRS

Is this one of the talking points that the lefties agreed to late yesterday at the West Wing? It appears that Zero has zeroed in on another scapegoat.

31 posted on 05/22/2013 12:38:23 PM PDT by PuzzledInTX (Everything will be OK in the end. If it is not OK, then it isn't the end.)
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To: PuzzledInTX

What’s sickening about this process is that the DOJ is involved in legal issues. That’s like having a bunch of terrorists guard a consulate! Oh wait..


32 posted on 05/22/2013 12:42:51 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Mamzelle

She screwed up by giving sworn testimony of her innocence THEN trying to claim the Fifth.

Apparently you cannot give your version and then clam up- you have to allow cross examination.


33 posted on 05/22/2013 12:43:17 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

True. Throughout this hearing and the Benghazi hearing I have been amazed.


34 posted on 05/22/2013 12:43:36 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
On Drudge now: "ISSA TO HAUL LERNER BACK BEFORE COMMITTEE"

"Lois Lerner lost her rights"

35 posted on 05/22/2013 12:47:03 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

And why they are fighting the special prosecutor idea. But it is becoming clear to most that the idea holds merit in this type of situation.


36 posted on 05/22/2013 12:51:31 PM PDT by PuzzledInTX (Everything will be OK in the end. If it is not OK, then it isn't the end.)
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To: Red Steel; Revolting cat!

Maybe there is still time for her to hit her head and catch the flu as Hillarity did before allegedly testifying before Congress on BenghaziGhazi.


37 posted on 05/22/2013 1:06:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise
Which reminds me. Last time I was called for jury duty, I told (and showed) the judge, "I take the 5th!" I was dismissed.
38 posted on 05/22/2013 1:12:02 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Steely Tom

Seems fair. :0)


39 posted on 05/22/2013 1:17:13 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Uncle Miltie

She misused her office to change the outcome of a Presidential election.

She needs to be charged with a federal crime and sent to prison.


40 posted on 05/22/2013 1:24:42 PM PDT by SusaninOhio
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