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To: haffast

This is hooey, for the simple reason that Anonymous is not a hierarchical, “patriarchal” organization. Instead it is a decentralized “matriarchal” pattern, of the type that are gaining strength in the world.

The reason for this is that hierarchical organizations have figured all the ins and outs of the hierarchical pattern. They know how it works, and how to defeat another such pattern. But they have no “interface” with “matriarchal” organizations. They cannot control them because they cannot define their pattern.

A good real world example of this, oddly enough, is the ‘Rainbow Family’. It has no leaders, only ad hoc meetings with voluntary action of all participants. The government tries to block it, subvert it, control it, etc., but always fails because it cannot figure out how.

When they decide to hold a gathering, they begin by announcing a region where it will be held, then in an area within that region, then finally, just before it begins, they divulge the actual location. This makes it very hard to block them by preventing a gathering.

Once assembled, they still have nobody in charge, no leaders, and the only visible authority are volunteers with walkie talkies. Those who become violent are mobbed and duct taped to a tree.

Finally, when they are planning to leave, they not only clean up, but reseed the land, and put all their garbage in a truck. Then they finally ask for a volunteer to drive the truck. The volunteer knows he will be arrested as a sacrifice, because he is the closest thing to a “leader”, as far as the government is concerned. He must be willing to spend six months in jail as punishment.

In any event, this is similar to how Anonymous functions, and why the government fails to even define what it is. It has no leaders, and anyone can claim membership or disavow membership. It acts only when someone suggests doing something and others join in on their own.

Ironically, the Tea Party also forms a similar organization, which is why neither the government nor the left has been able to successfully co-opt, neutralize or destroy it.


3 posted on 05/19/2013 7:48:49 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Matriarchal organizations might be successful in conducting massive events that have little impact on the social order (e.g. Rainbow Gatherings) or events that may have a temporary effect, but promote no long lasting change (e.g. Anonymous hacks, The Tea Party, etc.)

The Iron Law of Oligarchy is still in effect: the only way to take down the current oligarchy is to replace it with another one. Otherwise you're just engaging in vandalism.

5 posted on 05/19/2013 8:20:37 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

-—— which is why neither the government nor the left has been able to successfully co-opt, neutralize or destroy it———

It can be argued that the tea parties were in fact neutralized. While there are memories of heady days, the momentum was dampened, the force diminished if not destroyed.

It occurred to me recently that there was a very significant and well advertised and attended event in Washington. The Tea party groups actually came to DC in large numbers to protest and to protect the Vietnam Memorial from desecration. It was downplayed by the MSM but the lies did not diminish the fact. There were hundreds of thousands that turned out that day to protest their disgust.

It can be further argued that while there seemed to be no real result for the gathering, no coming together, no powerful active force emerging, no redress of greviences, the event produced genuine fear and perhaps panic at the DNC/White House. The events undoubtedly precipitated or at least strengthened the resolve to destroy the Tea Parties. The IRS was tuned up to bring about that destruction.


10 posted on 05/20/2013 4:29:17 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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