Posted on 05/15/2013 6:11:52 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
That’s the revelation made by California Congressman Devin Nunes, who sits on the House Ways And Means Committee on Hugh Hewitt’s Show Wednesday night. Here’s the key part of that transcript:
HH: The idea that this might be a Geithner-Axelrod plan, and by that, the sort of intimation, Henry II style, will no one rid me of this turbulent priest, will no one rid me of these turbulent Tea Parties, that might have just been a hint, a shift of an eyebrow, a change in the tone of voice. That’s going to take a long time to get to. I don’t trust the Department of Justice on this. Do you, Congressman Nunes?
DN: No, I absolutely do not, especially after this wiretapping incident, essentially, of the House of Representative. I don’t think people are focusing on the right thing when they talk about going after the AP reporters. The big problem that I see is that they actually tapped right where I’m sitting right now, the Cloak Room.
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Where did I say that? I was merely pointing out that there is a distinction between "tapping" and subpoenaing phone records. It appears, on the surface at least, that there might have been a subpoena that could have made the collection of these records technically legal. Wiretaps would require an order from a judge, and any judge would be very reluctant to grant ANY wiretap authorization that covered members of Congress. For the administration to illegally tap members of Congress WOULD be an impeachable offense.
Don't conflate my attempts to insure that we are clear on the actions taken by the DOJ with approving of the actions they took. But if we overstate the case beyond what the facts bear out, it makes it much easier for them to cast us as extremists and whackos who don't pay attention to the facts of the case...
What if they had transcripts of the calls, but not the audio?
Is the doctor come?
No, he can't come.
Miss Scarlett, Miss Melly bad off.
He can't come. There's nobody to come.
You've got to manage without the doctor. I'll help you.
Oh, Lordy, Miss Scarlett!
Well, what is it?
Lordy, we’s got to have a doctor!
I don't know nothing about birthing babies!
-What do you mean? -I don't know—
You told me you knew everything!
I don't know why I lied!
Ma ain't never let me around when folks was having them.
Maybe we should call Obama, Prissy?
I can see a judge doing something like that to a specific congressman, but to allow the DOJ/Executive Branch to just obtain phone records of just anyone who just happens to be in the Cloak Room....seems pretty broad.
If you were a Congressman, what would be your legal response be?
To have transcripts would require actual wiretaps, which would have to be approved by a judge to be legal. If they went to a judge, they would have to specify exactly who they wanted to tap, and provide evidence of a reasonable suspicion that each person included in the wiretap request was involved in a crime. No judge is going to sign off on a wiretap order for 20 or more journalists, especially if the communications being tapped involve members of Congress.
So if they had transcripts that would be prima facie evidence that they had violated federal wiretapping laws and subject to prosecution and imprisonment.
I'm not a lawyer, but from what has been discussed on this matter so far makes it appear that the Attorney General can approve the subpoena for the phone records - the didn't have to go to a judge for that.
So, you are saying that the executive branch can obtain phone records from the legislative branch anytime they want?
I HATE TORNADOES, I HATE TORNADOES and Hurricanes.
Clinton is a private citizen, lets think Prison, unfortunately it will never happen with what info we have so far.
Apparently there are two cloak rooms. Does anyone know if this is true, and which room was tapped, or was it both Dem & Rep that were tapped?
sfl
“Things are different now that we have VOIP phone communications. One no longer needs to ‘tap’ and record a conversation, because ALL conversations are now recorded at that NSA data center in Utah. Hence, all Zero needs to ‘tap’ a conversation is to know the time and the line on which the call was made and then pull up the record.”
This had been the case for over 30 years......
That would explain some of the voting. How many Republicans does O have embarrassing info on?
so why have all the whistle-blowers been sitting on this information until after the election, obviously the truth was know before.
What is really happening here?
You think most people kept silent because they were afraid of a scandal Petraeus style?
There is no doubt that that little gem was released on purpose.
Need I remind y’all of this.
Maxine Waters: ‘Obama Has Put In Place’ Secret Database With ‘Everything On Everyone’
“The President has put in place an
organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before
in life,” Representative Maxine Waters told Roland Martin on Monday.
“That’s going to be very, very powerful,” Waters said. “That database
will have information about everything on every individual on ways that
it’s never been done before and whoever runs for President on the
Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with
that database and the concerns of those people because they can’t get
around it. And he’s [President Obama] been very smart. It’s very
powerful what he’s leaving in place.”
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49a_1360284775
Yes, character counts.
Strange position to find oneself in, save the country from a tyrant, or worry about saving face.
But this is exactly how Obama destroyed people to get elected in Illinois, that is why I am positive this scandal goes all the way to the top banana.
I should dig up what he did in Illinois and find out who the main players were that helped him get elected to senate,he truly was but into office purposely.
To bad the news media will never dig that deep.
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