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BREAKING: 7 Caught Trespassing At Quabbin Reservoir; Patrols Stepped Up Across State (Arabs)
CBS Boston ^ | 5/15/2013 | CBS

Posted on 05/15/2013 3:40:18 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas

BELCHERTOWN (CBS) – Shortly after midnight Tuesday, seven people were caught trespassing at the Quabbin Reservoir.

State Police say the five men and two women are from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Singapore, and “cited their education and career interests” for being in the area. The men told police they were chemical engineers and recent college graduates.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
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To: cradle of freedom

yes it would, but using drones would be too simple-instead they bought 4 wheelers and big Jeeps etc. so they can chase criminals thru the woods-more fun I guess ;)


181 posted on 05/15/2013 12:11:20 PM PDT by homegroan (Never make someone a priority when all you are to them is an option....)
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To: daniel1212
Great links, Thank you. That information is something I had no idea about.

/Salute

182 posted on 05/15/2013 12:15:48 PM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism needs a re-awakening plan for the American public)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Howie just mentioned this post...


183 posted on 05/15/2013 12:19:00 PM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: Truth29; All

They could be looking at blowing up the dam and supply pipes!


184 posted on 05/15/2013 12:49:38 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

They could be planning simply to blow the Dam up or the inlet pipe systems and screw up the water supplies for months...maybe it’s not about poison but about sabotage!


185 posted on 05/15/2013 12:53:57 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

No mention of a fence? Did the rabs climb a fence? Surely the reservoir is fenced. We had a similar incident at Bull Springs, Portland, OR’s water supply a couple years ago. One guy, had a camera, security cams caught him climbing the fence both ways and apparently snapping a few pics. They took his film and busted him for fence climbing.


186 posted on 05/15/2013 1:15:45 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: mdmathis6

“They could be looking at blowing up the dam and supply pipes!”

I’m guessing that if they had that much explosive, they would not go for an infrastructure target. In WWII, a typical anti-dam aerial bomb weighed in at about 300 lbs and needed precise placement (skip bombs).

The Marathon bombs were a couple pounds apiece.

McVeigh’s device, at 7000 lbs, may do some damage but unless it’s placed inside the dam, probably would not take it down because ANFO is pretty slow compared to TNT or Comp B.


187 posted on 05/15/2013 1:21:04 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Little Pig

“The Quabbin is in the middle of a state forest, and is pretty undeveloped.”

Great place to go drink and eat pork BBQ and no one will see you.


188 posted on 05/15/2013 1:30:26 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: mdmathis6

Here’s an update from Wikipedia- the dam-buster WWII bombs were over 9000 pounds:

Testing of Upkeep prototypes with inert filling was carried out at Chesil Beach, Dorset, flying from RAF Warmwell in December 1942, and at Reculver, Kent, flying from RAF Manston in April and May 1943, at first using a Vickers Wellington bomber.[11] However, the dimensions and weight of the full-size Upkeep were such that it could only be carried by the Avro Lancaster, which was the largest British bomber available at the time, and nonetheless had to undergo considerable modification in order to carry it.[12] In testing, it was found that Upkeep’s spherical casing would shatter on impact with water, but that the inner cylinder containing the bomb would continue across the surface of the water much as intended.[13] As a result, Upkeep’s spherical casing was eliminated from the design. Development and testing concluded on 13 May 1943 with the dropping of a live, cylindrical Upkeep bomb 5 miles (8 km) out to sea from Broadstairs, Kent, by which time Wallis had specified that the bomb must be dropped at “precisely” 60 feet (18 m) above the water and 232 miles per hour (373 km/h) groundspeed, with back-spin at 500 rpm: the bomb “bounced seven times over some 800 yards, sank and detonated”.[14]

In the operational version of Upkeep, known by its manufacturer as “Vickers Type 464”, the explosive charge was Torpex, originally designed for use as a torpedo explosive, to provide a longer explosive pulse for greater effect against underwater targets; the principal means of detonation was by three hydrostatic pistols, as used in depth charges, set to fire at a depth of 30 feet (9 m); and its overall weight was 9,250 pounds (4,196 kg), of which 6,600 pounds (2,994 kg) was Torpex. Provision was also made for “self-destruct” detonation by a fuze, armed automatically as the bomb was dropped from the aircraft, and timed to fire after 90 seconds.[15] The bomb was held in place in the aircraft by a pair of calipers, or triangulated carrying arms, which swung away from either end of the bomb to release it.[16] Back-spin was to begin 10 minutes before arriving at a target, and was imparted via a belt driven by a Vickers Jassey hydraulic motor mounted forward of the bomb’s starboard side. This motor was powered by the hydraulic system normally used by the upper gun turret, which had been removed.[citation needed] Aiming was by a pair of intersecting spotlight beams, which, when converged on a surface of water, indicated correct height for the aircraft, and by a simple, hand-held, triangular device: with one corner held up to the eye, projections on the other two corners would line up with pre-determined points on the target when it was at the correct distance for bomb release. In practice, this could prove awkward to handle, and some aircrews replaced it with their own arrangements, fixed within the aircraft itself, and involving chinagraph and string.[17]

On the night of 16/17 May 1943, Operation Chastise attacked dams in Germany’s Ruhr Valley, using Upkeep. Two dams were breached, causing widespread flooding and damage, and loss of life. The significance of this attack upon the progress of the war is debated.[18] British losses during the operation were heavy; eight of the 19 attacking aircraft failed to return, along with 53 of 113 RAF aircrew.[19] Upkeep was not used again operationally. By the time the war ended, the remaining operational Upkeep bombs had started to deteriorate and were dumped into the North Sea without their detonation devices.[20]

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189 posted on 05/15/2013 1:40:14 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: caww

Absolutely; no reason to trust them. Trust is earned...


190 posted on 05/15/2013 1:40:56 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
At this point, anything that happens to a liberal city does not phase me, it`s Darwinian. These ass-clowns are the circus behind O`Bozo, they voted for him so that he can now have the power to illegally let the moose-limbs in so I say f-`em, they`ll get what they asked for.

Just hope conservatives are smart enough to get the hell out of the liberal crap-holes before it`s too late, but maybe that's a Darwinian issue too, IF they`re too stubborn or stupid to move.

191 posted on 05/15/2013 1:41:47 PM PDT by nomad
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To: cherokee1
Surely the reservoir is fenced.

It has 118 miles of shoreline (http://www.foquabbin.org/faxfigs.html) Cost of a fence might be as low as 10k per mile but since it's government count on 200k per mile. Border fence is a couple million a mile at the very least.

192 posted on 05/15/2013 2:16:31 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: DBrow

I mentioned the inlet supply piping systems could be a target and might not need as much explosive.


193 posted on 05/15/2013 2:49:56 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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To: Pride in the USA

Thanks for the ping. Insanity!!

It’s midnight on a cold (temps in the 30s), moonless night: 2 carloads of 7 young Chemical Engineering students from 3 different Muslim countries, coming together from 5 different cities in the Northeast, trespassing on the water supply for BOSTON for no reason whatsoever, other than they were “curious.”

How many of these 7 will show up for their scheduled hearing and how many will have completely disappeared by then? Place your bets...


194 posted on 05/15/2013 2:58:14 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

No, not until you pinged me. Thank you for the heads up!


195 posted on 05/15/2013 3:19:53 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: mdmathis6

http://www.lowimpacthydro.org/lihi-pending-application-ferc-no.13400-loring-road-hydroelectric-project-mwra-water-delivery-system-massachusetts.html

Luckily the aqueduct intake is miles from where the kids were. I share your concern, but I don’t think these kids were a threat. I think they were partying or goofing around, and went to a popular spot. If they were casing the dam, they’d do it in daytime- less suspicion and better light.


196 posted on 05/15/2013 3:44:31 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

All seven should have been "shot trying to escape". Thanks St_Thomas_Aquinas.
Thanks .

Obama's Fault! Impeach Now!


197 posted on 05/15/2013 3:56:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
No mention of their religious affiliation in any news accounts.

Only conservative Americans can be profiled...

198 posted on 05/15/2013 4:15:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (Jesus said, Give your money to the poor. NOT 'Give your neighbor's money to the poor' freeper kevao)
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To: Candor7
We teach them bio engineering and they do midnight toxicity experiments?

Refresh my memory - did we train German and Japanese students at our technical Universities during World War II?

199 posted on 05/15/2013 4:18:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (Jesus said, Give your money to the poor. NOT 'Give your neighbor's money to the poor' freeper kevao)
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To: Mouton
This was a perimeter probe IMO. Let’s go see if they have any electronic monitors.

That's my take too...

200 posted on 05/15/2013 4:25:27 PM PDT by GOPJ (Jesus said, Give your money to the poor. NOT 'Give your neighbor's money to the poor' freeper kevao)
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