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Confederate flag shirts stir tensions at Mo. high school
MSNBC ^ | 5/13/13 | Anon

Posted on 05/13/2013 12:53:39 PM PDT by 0.E.O

NIXA, Mo. —The Nixa school district is refusing to allow students to wear T-shirts emblazoned with the Confederate flag to memorialize a classmate's death.

The Springfield News-Leader reports that students wanted to wear the shirts on the anniversary of a Colby Snider's May 1, 2012, death from carbon monoxide poisoning. Besides the Confederate flag, the shirts included the slogan "heritage

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: confederate; dixie; dresscodes; teens; tshirt
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To: UCANSEE2
Oh... like the American Flag right now.

Unfortunately there's a lot of truth in that.

61 posted on 05/13/2013 6:07:38 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: central_va
So I guess the Confederacy and the Third Reich are a viewed a little differently. Care to retract your stupid statement?

No. And my statement was very insightful. Might as well honor Nazis in America since so many loser Confederates are given honor. Both declared war against the U.S. and LOST.

Plus, what is Southern heritage? I read the Confederate Constitution and it was very pro-slaveholder. Is that was these Americans are honoring as Southern Heritage? I am genuinely curious since I do live in the South.

62 posted on 05/13/2013 6:07:51 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: central_va
A bloody revolution would please a pig like you.

Who's advocating 'a bloody revolution'?

At least secession could theoretically be bloodless, though missing a chance like my ancestors got to kill a pack ‘o Yankees would be a disappointment.

Ah so it's you pining for the bloody revolution. Clears that up.

I can rest assured with persona of you ilk around things wont go smoothly. You guys won’t have the slavery thing to hang your statism on, so what would it be this time?

Oh I think the split is coming. And when it comes I'm looking forward to helping establish and living in a truly conservative country. You and Texas can go your way and we'll go ours.

63 posted on 05/13/2013 6:13:30 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: DoughtyOne

Even if it was a statement in support of slavery, of the historical southern insurrection, or racism, it would still be protected from government censorship per the first amendment, just as African nationalists flag shirts which support anti-white racism, or Che shirts which support a communist mass murderer are protected from government censorship.

One can have personal contempt for such things, but government representatives are forbidden from using the authority of the state to suppress such speech.


64 posted on 05/13/2013 8:49:38 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker
40 regiments of black southern men

fixed it.

66 posted on 05/14/2013 5:07:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RginTN
And my statement was very insightful.

Yes very, you are ignorant of history.

So US Route 1 is called "Jefferson Davis Highway".

So how many autobahns are named after der fuehrer?

Again you are a truly ignorant person.

67 posted on 05/14/2013 5:13:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: donmeaker

I think that is a sound argument.


68 posted on 05/14/2013 5:26:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Leftist, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, fundamentalist Islamic policies, the death of a nation.)
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To: central_va

Why would you want to name a road after der fuehrer?


69 posted on 05/14/2013 6:10:36 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: donmeaker
I guess we didn’t kill enough southern traitors.

You guys never killed any traitors. And a matter of fact, although he demanded a trial, Jefferson Davis was never tried for treason. So your lame brain sentence makes no sense WHAT SO EVER.

70 posted on 05/14/2013 7:16:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rockrr
Why would you want to name a road after der fuehrer?

Why would you want to name a road after Jeff Davis?

71 posted on 05/14/2013 7:45:07 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: rockrr
Why would you want to name a road after der fuehrer?

Why would you want to name a road after Jeff Davis?

72 posted on 05/14/2013 7:45:07 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: central_va

Davis’ lawyers fought for years to avoid trial. Your statement is a falsehood. After he had exhausted all efforts to avoid trial, a merciful decision was made to not put him on trial. In response to that, Davis wrote his works of fiction on the pretended confederate government.

Yes, the US managed to kill several hundred thousands of traitors (making war against the US and adhering to the enemies of the US). Lee applied for pardon, admitting his error. I figure he knew the facts better than you.


73 posted on 05/14/2013 7:50:07 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: central_va

Wrong. Many of the southern regiments were raised from the southern states and consisted of white men who were opposed to treason.

Though some of the regiments were of African heritage, many were not. In particular, Tennessee hill country provided a lot of US soldiers.


74 posted on 05/14/2013 7:52:39 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: 0.E.O

The last time the revolution was bloody because the southern insurrectionists began a war against the United States.

The slave power needed a war to bring in Virginia.

Poor South Carolina, too small to be a country, too large to be an asylum.


75 posted on 05/14/2013 7:55:31 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker
Poor South Carolina, too small to be a country, too large to be an asylum.

I believe Petigru qualified that by saying South Carolina was too large to be an insane asylum.

76 posted on 05/14/2013 8:05:04 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: donmeaker
Americans were divided on how or whether to punish Davis. The government could prosecute Davis for alleged participation in the Lincoln assassination, for the mistreatment of Union prisoners of war, or for leading a rebellion against the United States. U.S. president Andrew Johnson favored murder charges. Many abolitionists and lawmakers opposed punishing Davis, and instead preferred a Reconstruction plan that would punish the former Confederacy. Yet many civilians wrote the president asking for Davis to be hanged; some even volunteered to construct the gallows. The Davis issue remained prominent in public discussion in 1865 until it gave way to other Reconstruction issues, such as the rights of black freedmen. When the Lincoln conspirators' trial failed to establish a connection to Davis, Johnson settled on treason charges.

The government charged Davis with treason against the United States for organizing and arming the 1864 military invasions of Maryland and the District of Columbia during the American Civil War (1861–1865). The defendant demanded a trial as the best forum for proving the constitutionality of secession, and the government requested numerous delays to prepare its case. Although the indictment was finished in March 1868, the Johnson impeachment further delayed the case. The court finally heard preliminary motions in December 1868, when the defense asked for a dismissal claiming that the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution already punished Davis by preventing him from holding public office in the future and that further prosecution and punishment would violate the double jeopardy restriction of the Fifth Amendment. The court divided in its official opinion and certified the question to the United States Supreme Court. Fearing the court would rule in favor of Davis, Johnson released an amnesty proclamation on December 25, 1868, issuing a pardon to all persons who had participated in the rebellion.

77 posted on 05/14/2013 9:20:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: fungoking

The people running this nation into the ground don’t much care for me either, but I still fly the flag. It is not about supporting the wealthiest 10%. Southerners have good reasons to be proud, and to fly the flag as a symbol of that pride.


78 posted on 05/14/2013 10:37:01 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: central_va
Fearing the court would rule in favor of Davis, Johnson released an amnesty proclamation on December 25, 1868, issuing a pardon to all persons who had participated in the rebellion.

Nonsense. Johnson had already issued two earlier amnesty proclamations not caring what the court might say. His December 1868 proclamation was a final middle-finger at the hardline Republicans who had dogged him his entire time in office.

79 posted on 05/14/2013 10:37:46 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

You can believe your “reconstructed” history, I’ll believe the real truth.


80 posted on 05/14/2013 10:49:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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