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Many part-timers to lose pay amid health act's new math
la times/pioneer press ^ | 5-12-13 | chad tehune

Posted on 05/12/2013 8:45:00 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

Many part-timers are facing a double whammy from President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act.

The law requires large employers offering health insurance to include part-time employees working 30 hours a week or more. But rather than provide health care to more workers, a growing number of employers are cutting back employee hours instead.

The result: Not only will these workers earn less money, but they'll also miss out on health insurance at work.

Consider the city of Long Beach, Calif. It is limiting most of its 1,600 part-time employees to fewer than 27 hours a week, on average. City officials say that without cutting payroll hours, new health benefits would cost up to $2 million more next year, and that extra expense would trigger layoffs and cutbacks in city services.

Part-timer Tara Sievers, 43, understands why, but she still thinks it's wrong.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; lose; obamacare; pay; unexpected
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I wonder who Tara voted for.
1 posted on 05/12/2013 8:45:00 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

The democrats will be wiped out in ‘14 if the full Obamacare is enacted. I predict delay legislation will be proposed.


2 posted on 05/12/2013 8:47:54 AM PDT by AU72
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This is the biggest Boondoggle ever put through the Senate.

They did not consider any of the Consequences of this act. Probably because they never read it.
They just took Nancy Pelosi’s word for it, and she never read it either.

Most of us including myself have no idea who the hell wrote it. Was it staffers? Senators? The Insurance Industry? Obama?
To make this thing so long and leave so many holes it must have been written by a 5th grader .The thing does not spell out anything but leaves the health of American citizens at the Whim of Sebelius the Secretary of Health and Human svc’s ./ She is practically a dictator over anything having to do with health care, and she simply is not equipped to handle the job.


3 posted on 05/12/2013 8:53:38 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: AU72

I have this thought that the President had anticipated the Supreme Court would have wiped out ObamaCare last year...as part of the grand plan, and then use the episode to declare full-scale war with the election against the Republicans.

I suspect they are sitting there now with no idea of how to stop the mess, except to move onto the 2014 election and watch a massive Republican and Independent vote.


4 posted on 05/12/2013 8:56:26 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: AU72

I agree they will try to delay implementation, but that will not stop the movement towards a standard 27hr work week, delay of legislation just leads to more pending uncertainty.

The only solution is to repeal the entire bill now, before those who need employee’s get used to having only part time workers.


5 posted on 05/12/2013 8:58:41 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: TurboZamboni

That was unexpected.


6 posted on 05/12/2013 8:58:49 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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No problemo...the dims are introducing legislation in Califonicate to fine companies that go to part time workers $15,000 per employee.


7 posted on 05/12/2013 9:01:04 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: TurboZamboni

No benefits, period, for public employees. They should receive a salary, and told to buy whatever they wish to with their money. They can buy retirements, health insurance, or pocket the money.

But the one thing that should never, ever happen is one city council shackling another on a budget line item. The only debt that a city is supposed to have is bonded debt, approved by the voters for city improvements. Of course, MOST city bonds in the last twenty years have not been about city improvements, but about making more room in the city budgets to pay for benefits already promised.


8 posted on 05/12/2013 9:01:10 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Well, I always wondered when the cause and effect is so clear and is going to hit hardest on minorities if civil rights groups would take up the cause of repeal.

This is a government taking.


9 posted on 05/12/2013 9:01:22 AM PDT by dila813
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“Let me be exactly clear about what health care reform means to you; first of all, if you’ve got health insurance, you like your doctors, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you.”
-Barack Hussein Obama, 16 July 2009


10 posted on 05/12/2013 9:01:30 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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I seem to recall that there is an exemption for companies with fewer than 50 employees.

If so, and I owned a company that had, let’s say 200 employees, I would break the company into a half a dozen or so separate entities that worked under contract to perform their task or specific function.


11 posted on 05/12/2013 9:01:41 AM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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"Most of us including myself have no idea who the hell wrote it. "

Well, CongressCritter John Dingell has apparently dumped his health care proposals into the hopper every year since ~1957.

I suspect there were many pages of prewritten stuff hanging out in 'rat drawers for decades that were quickly sewn together.

12 posted on 05/12/2013 9:03:42 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Some liberals have adopted the talking point, that Obamacare itself is fine, but that there are problems with “implementation” of this law.

My open question would be — who in the heck is implementing it? The Obama administration and Democrats are the ones who are implementing it. If there are problems with implementing it, how can anyone blame anyone but themselves???

And it needs to be stressed over and over, that Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote in either House or Senate. Even RINOs voted against it. Heck, even a big group of less than radical Democrats voted against this thing.


13 posted on 05/12/2013 9:04:10 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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“I wonder who Tara voted for.”

some illegal alien, commie idiot from Kenya whose first name rhymes with Buttcrack’


14 posted on 05/12/2013 9:04:42 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Zeneta

Nope. They law has a provision for common ownership to prevent what you mention. Next step is to require the employee to report all the places he works and if it is 30 or more then require all of his various employers to cover him.


15 posted on 05/12/2013 9:07:57 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: pepsionice
I suspect they are sitting there now with no idea of how to stop the mess, except to move onto the 2014 election and watch a massive Republican and Independent vote.

Oh, come now, when Republicans offer up a crop of candidates who are as liberal if not more liberal than their Democrat opponents, it doesn't much matter.

RomneyCare v ObamaCare?

The field is won when no opponent shows up for battle. So long as we continue to let the media and liberals pick and choose who our candidates are, we will continue to lose ground to the liberal agenda.

If anyone was really serious about winning the White House with an actual conservative, their first action would be to re-order the Republican presidential nomination process to place conservative states first, whittle out the RINOs and hopefully coalesce behind a conservative candidate who will make the election an actual choice. And when commentators start spouting that this candidate would never have won in liberal state, point out the obvious: Of course not, that's why we started with conservative states first. Just like you liberals use liberal states to choose your presidential candidate, and try to insist that conservatives use the same elections to choose their candidate.

16 posted on 05/12/2013 9:11:05 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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This is a perfect example of what the low-information voters have wrought unto themselves.

Pericles, the Greek statesman, had it right (and this is a paraphrase since I do not remember off-hand the exact wording): “You may not be interested in politics but politics is interested in you.”


17 posted on 05/12/2013 9:11:28 AM PDT by OldPossum
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I think the discriptor “double whammy” is just scratching the surface, the employee’s will also be mandated to purchase individual health insurance or face a fine, and in the case of subsidy eligable individuals, be accurately able to forcast their income for the future year, or face a claw back and penalities.


18 posted on 05/12/2013 9:11:59 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Zeneta

I seem to recall that there is an exemption for companies with fewer than 50 employees.

If so, and I owned a company that had, let’s say 200 employees, I would break the company into a half a dozen or so separate entities that worked under contract to perform their task or specific function.


The IRS and the state of California both have regulations and laws forbidding such practices. They are going to get you coming and going I’m afraid.


19 posted on 05/12/2013 9:12:04 AM PDT by The Working Man
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You can’t even split it up between family members.


20 posted on 05/12/2013 9:12:10 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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